•2fr The source of this uncorrected OCR text may be viewed as a digital facsimile at: http://fax.libs.uga.edu/ HISTOEICAL MANUSCRIPTS COMMISSION. MANÜSCEIPTS OF THE EAEL OF EGMONT. DIAEY OF THE FIRST EARL OF EGMONT (VISCOUNT PERCIVAL). VOL. II. 1734—1738. LONDON : PUBLISHED BY HIS MAJESTY'S STATIONEBY OFFICE. To be purchased through any Bookseller or directly from H.M. 6TATIONEKY ΟΙΊΊΟΕ at the following addresses : IMVERIAL HOCSB, KMOSWAY, LONDON, w.C.2, and 28, ABINGDON STREET, LONDON, S.W.1 ; YORK STREET, MANCHESTER ; ' 1, ST. ANDREW'S ORESCENT, CAHDDJÏ ; or 120, QEOEGE STREET, EDINBURGH:. 1923. . Net. HISTOEICAL MANUSCRIPTS COMMISSION. MANÜSCEIPTS \ OF THE EAEL OF EGMONT. DIAEY OF THE FIRST EARL OF EGMONT ( VISCOUNT PERCIVAL ). VOL. II. 1734—1738. \ \ .,««»' LONDON : PUBLISHED BY HIS MAJESTY'S STATIONBEY OFFICE. To be purchased through any Bookseller or directly from H.M. STATIONERY OFFICE at the following addresses : IMPERIAL HOUSE, KTOOSWAY, LONDON, w.0.2, and 28, ABINODON STREET, LONDON, S.W.1 ; YORE STREET, MANCHESTER ; 1, ST. ANDREW'S -ORESCENT, CARDIFF ; or 120, GEORGE STREET, EDINBURGH. 1923. Price Is. 6d. Net. e/i f I •J lrt\ \ \ \ l=s V«£ • 1 CONTENTS. INTRODUCTION DIARY PAGE V l Wt. 6606. 1000. 11/23. H.T. Ltd. £ £ \ 3'·· \ \ This Volume has been edited and passed through the press, on behalf of the Historical Manuscripts Commissioners, by Mr. R. A. ROBERTS, one of their number. In the series of Reports this volume should be numbered 63. ÍNTEODÜCTION. The present volume continues Lord Egmont's diary for the five complete years, 1734 to 1738. As regards its subject matter, Parliament having been dissolved early in the first named year, Egmont himself ceasing to sit as member for Harwich, and his son, whom he proposed as his successor, having failed to be elected in his stead, there is no longer that full chronicle of proceedings and debates in the House of Commons which was so marked a feature of the previous volume. The circumstances of the election at Harwich, the intrigues, the plots and activities to counteract them, the local political strife of the borough intimately connected with the personal advancement of members of the small body of the electorate, are disclosed in numerous and lengthy entries. The passion engendered in Harwich itself in the course of the struggle may be gathered from the fact that one of young Percival's opponents was so overjoyed at the result that he exclaimed, " Lord, now let Thy servant depart in peace, for my eyes have seen Thy salvation !" In the view of Lord Egmont and his friends, the loss of the election was to be laid to the charge of Sir Robert Walpole, however much the Minister might express his concern at the result, and notwith standing the efforts he made to disabuse Lord Egmont's mind of the idea. In other respects the great Minister's political conduct and private life come from time to time under review and some scandalous sallies at his expense are given a place. Lord Egmont's freedom from Parliamentary attendance gave him the opportunity, of which he copiously availed himself, of recording the proceedings of the Trustees and Common Council of the Society to which was entrusted, with the aid of a grant from Parliament, the administration of the province of Georgia in America. The diary becomes increasingly, therefore, a valuable source of information for the early settlement and history of the Colony, which may be consulted with advantage side by side with the official records of the Society preserved among the Colonial Office Records in the Public Record Office in London.* Among the matters referred to in the diary which may be specially instanced in this connexion are the visit of an Indian Chief to England, with his wife, son, and a retinue of followers in the summer of 1734, and episodes in the lives of the brothers Wesley and Mr. Whitfield connected with their evangelistic services in the Colony. John Wesley returned from Georgia to England in 1738 and Whitfield left for the Colony in the same year. Other matters of interest which appear in this section of the Wt. 5606. * P.R.O., Colonial Office, 5. Nos. 666-692. /8;: / â> \ \ „M -Λ« 5; ¡oto fj e/i 1 I diary are the circumstances of the marriage of the Prince of Orange with the Princess Royal ; the strained and unhappy relations of the Prince of Wales with his father and mother, the King and Queen ; Lord Egmont's own intercourse with the Court, and particularly his conversations with the Queen ; the illness and death of the Queen in 1737 and the King's attitude on the occasion, and many notices of the intimate life of the Court. The general social conditions of the period receive constant illustration, while the daily events of Lord Egmont's own family life, his occupations and amusements, including his own private winter concerts and visits to opera and play, his assiduous attendance at church, dis cussions of ecclesiastical positions and gossip about ecclesiastical persons, subjects in which he took a very lively interest, are all duly recorded. The negotiations for the marriage of his only son, essayed in more than one direction, and ultimately happily successful by a union with the Salisbury family, stand out as particularly important in the domestic history of the Percivals and demonstrate the social ideas and conventions of the period. The next volume will complete the extant diary and contain the index to the whole. March, 1922. R. A. B. DIABY OF THE FIKST EARL OF EGMONT, FIKST VISCOUNT PEECIVAL, ETC. VOL . II. 1734. [1733-4], January 1, Tuesday, New Year's Day.—I went early to Mr. Hill, and asked him if Mr. Leathes had writ to him on Thursday night ? He replied, not that he knew of, but possibly the letter may lie at the Custom House. I told him they writ me word that the adverse party had gotten the affidavit of Davis made that he had not used his name to John Philips. He answered, he was sure that was not true, for he had it in his scriptore, and scarce remembers if he shewed it him. And thereupon he took it out and read it to me. I told him the keeping back Peck's deputation ; he advised I should write to Mr. Carteret to know the reason of it. I told him that sometimes I suspected my Lord Lovel, out of caution lest his brother should not be chosen for Norfolk, had a design to set him up also at Harwich. He replied, that could not be, for Sir Robert would not use my son or any gentleman in so ill a manner. He then told me he had some conversation touching me with Sir Robert, Sunday last, who spoke very handsomely of me, as also Mr. Walpole does, and that he has, since this affair, seen him use Mr. Leathes with great cavalierness, telling he talked like a child. That indeed he seems to talk more ministerially than Sir Robert, but is as open, only more hot. I told him Mr. Walpole told me on Saturday night that he believed John Philips was sent to Wells already. He replied he wondered he could say so, but it would be done in a little time. I went afterwards to Court, where the Queen made great com pliments to me on my brother Parker's account for offering his house at Weston, near the Bath, to the Prince of Orange, who sets out to-morrow, and desired me to bring my brother to Court to thank him. She spoke the like to my wife. Wt. 5606. E I 2 DIAEY OF THE Jan. 1-8 My son and daughter Hanmer and Mrs. Masham dined with us. In the evening I went to the Haymarket playhouse to see " The Silent Woman." January 2, Wednesday.—This morning I went to Charlton, and returned at night. I visited brother Parker, to tell him the Queen's message. He replied he could not go to Court to wait on her, for that to-morrow he goes with his family to Arwarton. I wrote to Mr. Carteret, Post Master General, to desire Tom Peck might have his deputation sent him down, as all the Packet Masters had long since. He sent me back word, that his deputation was signed and sent him down in October last, and he would write to-morrow to him about it. I suppose Sansom the Agent received it and kept it back, but I shall write to-morrow to Clements to know. Thursday, 3.—Visited Mr. Clerke. This evening I wrote to Clements what Mr. Carteret informed me of Peck's deputation. I stayed at home the evening. Friday, 4.—This morning I returned the visits of Dr. Couraye and Mr. Bagnal, and Colonel St. Hipplite. Then went to Court, where the King and Queen spoke to me. I met Sir Robert Walpole and his brother there. I asked the latter if he had writ to Sansom to come up ; he replied, no, and that he thought it sufficient if he writ to him in my son's favour, and if I liked of it, he would shew me the letter he would write. I replied nothing, but afterwards asked the same question of Sir Robert, who replied Mr. Carteret had the gout, and he could not see him, but he would order the man up. I desired to know if I should remind him of it by a memorandum, or whether he would write to Sansom and I would send the letter down to him ? He answered, it was not necessary, for he would remember it, and it was better to send for him up than to write. I passed the evening at home. Mr.Ven came to see me, to whom I presented 20Z. for his zeal and service in the Irish nobility's affair, for which he was very thankful. He told me that one Dr. Rundell, chaplain to the new Lord Chancellor Talbot, has been strongly recommended by his patron to the Bishopric of Gloucester, vacant by the death of Dr. Sydall. But that he was promised the Bishop of London to oppose his consecration in Bow Church, as an unbeliever and profane person, having with his own ears heard him say that Abraham was a cunning politician who, to carry his designs, pretended to hold discourse with God. Mr. Ven added that as there must at least be two Bishops at the consecration of a Bishop, he believed there are not above that number on all the Bench who will consecrate a person of Rundell's character. Saturday, 5.—This morning I visited cousin Southwell, whose letters from Ireland informed him that my Lord Lieutenant had lost all interest in the House of Commons of Ireland by reason of his Secretary Cary's behaviour, and the design of repealing the Test ; and also in the House of Lords, who resent the not allowing the Irish nobility their right of walking in public processions here. I then went to the Georgia Society, where were present Mr. Vernon, Sir William Heathcot, George Heathcot, White, Dr. Bundy, FIRST EARL OF EGMONT. 3 1733-4. Mr. Lapotre, Mr. Frederick, myself, Mr. Smith, and Dr. Bedford. Mr. Vernon being in the trustee chair, we read a letter from Mr. Oglethorp, dated 15th November, advising us of his speedy return for England, that he should leave the Colony in good con dition, but could not make up accounts as he wished, because Hughes, in whose hands,* was dead, and the books not to be found. He drew on us for 1,100?., and said he should draw again for more. We read the Jews' letter to us, wherein they make a civil, but trifling excuse for sending some of their nation to Georgia without our knowledge. We ordered a letter to them to return our commissions, and to make us satisfaction by endeavouring to recall those Jews or send them to some other place. We impressed 600Z. to Mr. Heathcot for increase service. I received a letter this night from Clements, acquainting me that Sansón the Agent is speechless and in a desperate way, and desiring me, if I could not recommend an Agent, to take care that one of the other side be not the man, or at least that he acknow ledged his place as much to me as to Mr. Leathes. Sunday, 6.—This morning I went to Chelsea, where I hoped to find Sir Robert Walpole, and intended to ask for "Clements to suc ceed Sansón in the Agent's place at Harwich, in case he should die, but he was gone to Richmond. I therefore, at my return home, writ him a letter to that effect in my brother Parker's name and mine, to desire the same favour, with assurance that Clements and his friends should do as he would have them ; and he sent me back a letter as follows :— January 6, 173f. My Lord, If what you expect happens, I will certainly oblige your Lordship in the manner you desire, for I am very truly, My Lord, your Lordship's most obedient humble servant, R. WALPOLE. After prayers and sermons at home, I went to Court, where the King spoke to me. I also waited on the Prince. Mr. Clarke, of Spring Gardens, dined with me. In the evening I went to Chapel. Monday, 7th.—This morning I visited my brother Percival and son Hanmer, also Mr. Schutz. Mr. Fra. Clerke dined with me. I spent the evening at home. Tuesday, 8.—This morning I went to Sir Robert Walpole's Levée, where Mr. Bacon Morris, Governor of Languard Fort, came up to me, and proposed to me that Captain Hayes, his deputy Governor, might succeed to the Agent's place at Harwich in case of Sanson's death, which he said would for ever effectually secure my interest there. I replied, I knew not what relation Captain Hayes had to Harwich. He replied, a great deal, for he had allowed him 501. a year to spend in order to keep up an interest there, which was very strong, for there was good shooting rabbits near the Fort, and the Harwich * Sic. l-«l VOY 4 DIABY OF THE Jan. 8-9 voters were at all times welcome to come over and shoot them, and bring their families to junket there. But more than that, he had himself so good an interest there, that he might have been chosen when he would. I let him run on at this rate, and then told him that I had much respect for Captain Hayes, but the Agent's place was already given if Sansón should die, and I had a promise of it for a friend. He seemed surprised at this, but, recollecting himself, said Captain Hayes should still support his interest there. To which I replied, he was in the right of it, and so I left him. But finding him put himself near the door in order to be as early as I in speaking to Sir Robert, so that he would overhear our con versation, I left the room and went the back way to Sir Robert, whom I found in his nightgown, and taking no notice that I had seen Mr. Morris, I told him I came to thank him for his promise made me yesterday by letter, and to ask one favour more, which was, that he would, always believe what I told him till he found it otherwise, and not hearken to the tittle tattle of others. He replied, he never did : that he had wished two of my family had stood, but when Mr. Leathes was to come in, and a difference had fallen out between him and me, he thought he could act no otherwise than he had done. I said I would not take up his time, but was come to thank him, and would write down to-night to Harwich. He asked if Sansón was dead ? I answered, not yet, for he had last post signed orders to the Packets. Well, said he, 'tis very well. So I left him. But shall be curious to know what Bacon Morris said to him, with his answer. I then went to Lord Grantham to consult him on what had passed between Sir Robert and me, and to have his advice whether I should not have the King spoken to, and made acquainted that Sir Robert had promised me this thing, in order to prevent the Post Master General from suddenly putting in an Agent without Sir Robert's knowledge. He answered, they would not take that step without consulting Sir Robert, who, since he had made me the promise for my friend, would not break it. However, it were not amiss that I spoke to him at Court this morning. Accordingly, I went to Court for that purpose, but he was not there. The King and Queen spoke to me. The Queen said a great deal, and particularly of Ireland, and in a low voice asked me between us what is the reason the Irish Parliament did not allow of a motion to repeal the Test ? I replied, for several reasons, neither Lords nor Commons would consent to it because the Papists are not so numerous as represented, nor the Dissenters. Besides, they loved the loaves, and were afraid the Scotch would get all the places there. She answered with a smile, I give you my word the Scotch are not to be satisfied with so small things, they would have no danger from that quarter. After this, my Lord Carpenter told me the Earl of Inchiqueen desired a book about the Peerage to give the Prince, but he thought it not proper. Ï1BST EABL OF EGMONT. 5 1733-4. I replied, his Lordship was certainly in the right, it would inflame matters to give the Prince a book ; besides, I was sure he had already seen it by the hand that conveyed it to the Princess Royal. His Lordship then making an apology for telling me what he was going to say, for which he first begged my pardon and then enjoined me secrecy, said, that this morning Bacon Morris had told him he was going to Sir Robert Walpole to get a thing done which would effectually destroy my interest in Harwich. That thereupon his Lordship asked him what he could mean against me, and whether there was any personal quarrel ? Morris replied, no, but it was a matter of Election. Then I told him I met Morris at Sir Robert's, and that I valued not his malice, for I had got Sir Robert's promise for my friend to succeed the Agent, who now is dying, and which place Morris wanted for one Captain Hayes, which was the affair that Morris had hinted to his Lordship ; that Morris had desired my consent in favour of the Major as a thing that would secure, not destroy, my interest. He replied, it must be so, and that Morris was an infamous man, and a spy, so known, that yesterday, being at the Duke of Marl- burow's, and pressing him to know if such and such things were his Grace's opinion, the Duke in a heat replied, I say again it is, and you may go if you please and tell it Sir Robert. I dined at home, with Dr. Couraye, whom I bid to wait to morrow at seven at night on the Queen, who this morning ordered me to send him. I passed the evening at home, and writ to brother Parker and to Clements .touching Sanson's death. Wednesday, 9.—This day I visited Sir Thomas Hanmer on his coming to town, as also my son Hanmer. I went to Court to speak to Sir Robert Walpole about his promise in favour of Clements to succeed Sansón. I spoke also to Horace Walpole. To both I said my apprehensions of a possibility of some surprise upon him, either that the King's promise in favour of another might be surreptitiously obtained, unknown to Sir Robert ; or that the Post Masters General, who would be the first to know of Sanson's death, when that should happen, might put a man into his place before Sir Robert had news of it, which was the case three years ago, when I lost a Packet which Sir Robert had promised me. Horace replied that as to the King, none would speak to him of such matters, and as to the Post Masters, he would remember when Lord Lovel came to town to bid his brother speak to him. Sir Robert said this matter was of too small a nature ever to reach the King's ear, and, smiling when he spoke of the Post Masters, said he believed they would not put in a man without consulting him, and what could he say more ? He had promised me this thing. I came therefore away very contented. Mr. Aldersey and his wife dined with us. I had letters this day from brother Parker and Tom Peck. My brother earnestly presses that if I can't get the Agency for a friend, that I should insist on some stranger's having it. That Sansón is dying. He added tos desire that I would write to Mr. Rebow, as he had done, that Clements might look after the lighthouse at Harwich for him. Peck writes me that he never had his deputation from Mr. Carteret, as Carteret had told me, and desires my advice what to do, seeing the Quarter Sessions is on the 15th. J O DIAKY OF THE Jan. 10-16 Thursday, 10th.—This morning I writ again to Mr. Carteret to enquire after Peck's deputation ; he was out of town, but Mr. Rouse, the Secretary, told my servant the deputation was signed the 7th of September last and sent away ; he sent for three clerks to give him some account of it, but they knew not who it was delivered to ; so he said he would enquire and inform me in a day or two. I writ to Mr. Eebow, of Colchester, to endeavour to get Clements the care of his lighthouse at Harwich, as also to Peck and brother Parker and Clements. While I was out this morning, Mr. Bacon Morris came to see me, which can be for no good. I visited Mr. Fra. Clerke and Mr. John Temple. Mrs. Bertoldi and Signer Scalci, the Opera singers, dined with me, as did the son of Dean Percival. I passed the evening at home. Friday, 11.—I visited Mr. Duncomb and Dr. Couraye, which last was an hour and half last night in private with the Queen, who asked him if What she gave him was sufficient for his support ; he replied, he desired nothing more but the continuance of her favour and protection. She bid him come again a fortnight hence. I called at the Speaker's, then came home, and passed the evening within doors. I received a letter from Clements that Sansón continues to mend. He thanked me for my favour. Will follow my directions, but the other party still carry themselves ill against my friends. Saturday, 12.—This day I visited at Mr. Tuffnall's, Governor Morrises, Colonel Schutz, and brother Percival's. Dined and stayed the evening at home. Sunday, 13.—This morning prayers and sermon at home. Went to Court. In the evening went to prayers, and passed the rest at home. Monday, 14.—Visited Mr. Clerk, of Spring Gardens, cousin Betty South well and cousin Le Grand. They told me Mr. Henry Kelsal, clerk of Treasury and member of Parliament, was broke and run away, which was a false report, for at my return home I found a letter from him of this morning's date to be at a meeting at Sir Robert's house at seven to-morrow night. I visited Mr. Drummond, a director of the East India Company, to desire my cousin Percival, at the Fort St. George, might enter the Company's service. He said there were so many noblemen's relations already in the service that it could not be, and that his going out on a private account was what disabled him, for he would not have liberty even to stay there. But on my desiring that favour at least might be shown him, he said he would do what he could, and bid me give him a note of my request before Wednesday. I then desired my cousin might have a hogshead of claret sent him ; he answered it was impossible, for all the advantages the ship captains are allowed by the Company is to carry wine thither and sell it, and there is an order against their carrying goods for others ; but if I would pay for a hogshead to the captain, which would come to 40 guineas, perhaps the captain would do that. I said I would pay the freight, but this wine was a present to him from another. He answered then the wine will be spoilt, for ÜBST EARL OF EOMONT. 7 1733 4. the wine which the captains carry must be opened some time before it goes and suffered to be dead, or it will be good for nothing when it gets thither: besides, freight pays nothing. I then talked of public affairs, and he told me elections go every where well. That the angry party are resolved to oppose everything the Government proposes this Session, and to be troublesome the first day of our meeting. That the Duke of Hamilton lias embarked with the Jacobite party, but having secretly offered to be for the Court if the King will make him a hereditary English Peer, the Jacobites, who have learned this, have renounced him, as a man unsettled, but all for his own interests. That the King recalled him from Rome, where he was too busy with the Pretender's party, of which Baron Stoch, our spy there, gave notice ; yet at his return the King made him Lord of the Bedchamber, which place he slighted, though kept open a year for him. This day I had two letters, one to be at Sir Robert Walpole's to-morrow at seven at night, the other to be at the Cockpit on Wednesday at the same hour ; but I intend to be at neither. The-business is to be made acquainted with the King's speech for Thursday next ; the meeting for to-morrow is of a select number, at the other meeting all who please may come. Tuesday, 15.—This morning I went to Charlton, and dined there. In the evening I visited Mr. Gumly, who told me the angry gentlemen design among other things to bring into Parliament the ΙΟΟ,ΟΟΟί. per annum which they say the King ought to allow the Prince. I heard from others that my Lord Cholmondeley, Master of the Horse to the Prince, and son-in-law to Sir Robert Walpole, had refused to move for an address of thanks to the King's speech, on account of his near alliance to Sir Robert, and his being the Prince's servant, which he thought rendered him unfit to make such motion, and would come better from a country Lord. Wednesday, 16.—This morning I visited Dean Berkeley to congratulate him upon being designed Bishop of Cloyn in Ireland, but he was not at home. I visited the Bishop of London to recom mend Mr. Cornwallis to his interest for a living in Essex. The Bishop told me he never promised, but he believed one Mr. Richards will get it, who was curate under the late incumbent, and was recommended by Sir Charles Wager and Mr. Clayton, on account that Mr. Richards is related to the head bailiff of Westminster, whose interest they want for Parliament men. He spoke with encomiums of Sir Robert Walpole, who, he said, he never found false to his word. He said a Triennial Bill will be pushed for in the House of Commons this Session, which if it be carried will pass the House of Lords. He said also that it is intended to push for procuring by address of Parliament, that the Principality of Wales may be settled on the Prince, which the King now keeps in his own hands, because of the power that follows it, though the income is but Ι,ΙΟΟΖ. per annum. He talked against the Bribery Bill, and against the Pension Bill. He wished the King would declare publicly a preference of the Church of England to the Dissenters. I visited Tu1 Scllutz> Lord Carpenter, and daughter Hanmer. My servant brought me word from Mr. Rous, Secretary of the 1 ost Office, that he could not find what became of Peck's deputation, I-Ul I ΥόΥ / ^l 8 DIARY OP THE Jan. 16-19 but he would soon send him down another, and Mr. Carteret was still out of town. It is evident from this that the deputation was kept back to tempt Peck to vote against the Mayor I set up, and that they will not own so much. Dr. Bearcroft dined with me. I stayed the evening at home.* Thursday, 17 January, 173f.—This morning Mr. James Clements came to town, with news that Sansón, Agent for the Packets at Harwich, died on Tuesday last. I went immediately to Sir Robert Walpole, and got his letter to Mr. Carteret, of the Post Office, to put Clements in that place, and then went with Clements to the Post Office, where Mr. Rouse, the Secretary, told me he would acquaint Mr. Carteret and Lord Lovel with it when they came to town, and he believed in about a week the commission would be made out. He said if the letter had been directed both to Lord Lovel and Mr. Carteret it had been better. I replied, Sir Robert was in doubt whether the commission were to pass by deputation from the Post Office or by commission from the Treasury. He answered that when Sansón was put in, it was by commission from the Treasury, because Mr. Walpole put him in, but the Post Masters had the right to commission the Agents. Then he confirmed to me that Tom Peck's deputation should be speedily sent him, and that he could not recollect how it came to pass the· former deputation miscarried, which had been sent him. He showed me a memorial in favour of Bickerton to succeed to Sansón, signed by twenty voters' hands, which arrived this morning. My Lord Grantham came to see me, and asked if Sir Robert Walpole had satisfied me. I replied he had, at which he expressed great pleasure. Mr. Doddington came to see me ; he is the great counsellor, or we may say premier Minister of the Prince of Wales, and charged by the Ministry with making mischief between the King and Prince, who of a long time have not conversed together except on New Year's Day that the King spoke to him in the drawing room, which was much observed. I went to the House, which began this day to sit. The King opened the Session with a long and handsome speech, and the Commons agreed to heads of an address of thanks without a division, but Shippen, Sir Jo. Cotton, Sir William Windham, Waller, Lord Colerain, and Will Pulteney would not suffer matters to go off too glibly, wherefore they objected to some words in our heads of Address, and would have some other words added by way of explanation. Some apprehended our general expressions of supplying the King as worded, might be made use of to obtain a vote of credit, and others insinuated that by engaging to defend his Majesty's possessions, might be meant his Hanover dominions. But on Sir Robert Walpole's assurances that neither of those things were intended to be offered at from the words of our Address, but that if they were necessary they would be the subject of a particular proposal to debate, those gentlemen desisted from their opposition, only four or five gave a loud No to agreeing, that it might appear the Address was not voted unanimously, thus shewing their teeth where they could not bite. * Here the fourth volume of the manuscript diary ends. It is carefully indexed. FIRST EABL OF EGMONT. 9 1733-4. At my return home to dinner, which was between five and six, I found Dean Berkeley, who acquainted me that this morning he had the King and Queen's hands for the Bishopric of Cloyn, which gave me inexpressible pleasure, for besides that he is my intimate friend, my estate is in his diocese. The Bishop of London told me the bishopric was designed him a week ago, and that there was no doubt of it, the Duke of Dorset having recommended him from Ireland, Sir Robert Walpole consenting, and the Queen and Lord Wilmington and himself very much approving it. The bishopric passes for 1,300Z. a year, but is effectually Ι,ΙΟΟΖ., and has a good house on it. I passed the evening at home, and reflected on the advantage I have gotten by procuring Mr. Clements the Agency of the Packets at Harwich ; for my interest with the Government must needs appear very great to the voters there, that the best employment for honour, power and salary should, by my means, be conferred on a person cruelly misrepresented to Sir Robert Walpole as his worst enemy. This action has reconciled me to Sir Robert and to Mr. Walpole, and all suspicion I justly had, that at the bottom my son was not designed to be member for Harwich if the Government could hinder it, is now ceased ; the enemies I had there will pull in their horns, and no third person offer to stand candidate there in opposition to my son and Mr. Leathes, which will save great trouble and expense. Besides, it is a stop to Mr. Leathes' ambitious view of making himself sole master of the borough, as also to his insolent carriage towards my friends. Friday, 18 Jan.—This morning I visited Mr. Temple and Mr. Clerke. Went to the House, where on the report of the Address of thanks to his Majesty for his speech, notice was taken by Mr. Sands, Plummer, Gibbons, and Shippen that the Address exceeded the heads for framing it, in passing an approbation of the Ministry's adminis tration by the following words—Prudence of your Majesty's counsels and measures on every occasion, which they objected to, as not fitting for many gentlemen to acquiesce in who did not approve every thing and measure taken by his Majesty since he came to the Crown. They called on Mr. Campbell to answer why he put in words to the Address which were not contained in the heads agreed to yesterday. Whereupon he said something to justify himself, but did not deny the liberty he had taken. Hereupon Mr. Henry Pelham said that it was usual for the Chairman to take that liberty when it did not contradict the heads of the Address, and Mr. Walpole supported him. At length Sir Robert Walpole gave way that the words objected to should not stand part of the Address, declaring he had no more desire of being screened for things past than ever to have recourse to an act of grace. So those words were expunged, after which the Address passed in a manner _ wem. con. It must be owned the Ministry thought to have slid in an approbation of their measures unawares. I dined at home, and with me Mr. Aldersee and one Mr. Newnham, of the City. I passed the evening at home. Saturday, 19th.—This day I visited my son Hammer, Sir Charles isunbury, Sir Thomas Hanmer, and brother Percival. Sir Edward Dermg visited me. I attended the Commons' Address to Court, Mid then the following gentlemen dined with me: The Speaker; Bishop of Bangor, Dr. Sherlock; Dr. Seeker, minister of St. James's \ \ «03° 9 I \ 10 DIABY Of THE Jan. 19-23 parish ; Dr. Couraye, Mr. Longvile, Mr. Temple, and the Earl of Tyrconnel. They stayed with me till nine o'clock. Sunday, 20.—This morning I went to Chapel, and afterwards to Court. I visited Mr. Francis Clerke, who told me there would be no ball to-morrow on occasion of celebrating the Prince of Wales's birthday, who was this day 27 old. The reason is that the Queen is ill of the gout, so that she has kept her bed two days, but others say it is so ordered that it may not appear how many persons intended to appear at the ball and show their respect to the Prince at this time of misunderstanding between him and his father. After dinner I went to Chapel, and then visited Sir John Evelyn, whom I acquainted with the satisfaction made me by Sir Robert Walpole in my Harwich election of a Mayor, and therefore I did no longer insist that John Philips should be recommended to the Wells station. Sir John said he had wondered how it came that Sir Robert had acted so, but he was glad I had satisfaction, and as to John Philips, they should let him alone until they found in him some fresh fault. Monday, 21.—This being the Prince of Wales's birthday, he is 27 years old. I put on new clothes and went to his Levée, and told him I wished him to live to see many, and many, and many such days. He smiled and very obligingly thanked me, and added he was convinced I loved him. Bacon Morris, Governor of Landguard Fort, near Harwich, came to see me, and talked a great deal of rattling stuff of his Deputy Governor's interest in Harwich, and if it had not been too late would have convinced me how much it was for my interest that he should have Sansón the late Agent's of the Packets place at Harwich. But since, as he understood, I had got it for Clements, he would desire I would concur with my interest that his Deputy might succeed to something on a new occasion. I 'told him the thing was now out of my power, for Clements had it, that on another occasion I should concur with him to serve Captain Hayes, provided he showed himself my friend and assisted my interest, since he said he had one there ; but it was unlucky his deputy should at the last election be a bustler against my friend Clements' election. That I knew nothing of Captain Hayes' desire to have Sanson's place, but when Sansón died was desirous the person who lost his election should succeed him, to redeem his credit, and mine too, it having been represented there that I had lost my interest with the Government. He said Captain Hayes has five voters there at his beck, and may have all the town. I replied that I wondered then twenty voters should have signed a petition for Bickerton to have the place, and none sign for Hayes, since Hayes was sent for to the town an hour after Sanson's death, and had an opportunity of asking his friends to petition for him. That I suppose he had heard of such a petition come up, which Mr. Leathes delivered. He replied he knew nothing of Mr. Leathes, and did not regard petitions, though signed by the whole town, and Captain Hayes disregarded going by way of petition since he knew him to be his friend and a relation of Sir Robert's. He asked me why I insisted on Clements for being Mayor, since all the town had promised me their votes for my son, if I would give him up. I answered, because I had promised him my interest BTßST EABL OB' EGMONT. 11 1733-4. for Mayor two years before, and he could no more wonder that I stood by my friend than I wondered he stood by Captain Hayes. He asked me if the Packets would serve under Clements ? I smiled, and said every one, and what I drive at, is to reconcile all differences there. Dr. Hollings and his family dined with us. Passed the evening at home. Tuesday, 22.—Went to Sir Robert Walpole to ask for the Clerk of the Pipe's place for my brother Percival. I told him it was both fit for him, and he for it. Sir Robert replied he had given it long ago to another, that it was a patent place for life, and a sinecure, and under my Lord Chancellor. I told him I hoped he did not think me troublesome, for he had been so kind as to promise to do for my brother. He replied, far from troublesome, for he had promised me to take care of my brother, and would ; besides, he had obligations to me which he should always acknow ledge. I went to the House, which rose soon, and then dined with Mr. Temple, in company with the Bishop of Bangor, Dr. Couraye, Dr. Clerk, a chaplain of the King's, and Dr. Seeker. Spent the evening at home. Wednesday, 23.—This morning I visited Mr. Carteret, of the Post Office, to know what progress was made in Mr. Clement's deputation or commission for the Agency of the Packets at Harwich. He told me my Lord Lovel had taken the memorial in favour of Bickerton to show Sir Robert Walpole, and if Sir Robert, not withstanding that memorial, would still have Clements to succeed to that office, that no time should be lost. He added that if, when I saw Sir Robert, he should tell me that Clements, notwith standing that memorial, should have the place, it would do as well, if I writ him a line to that purpose, as if Sir Robert should personally or by letter repeat his recommendation. We after wards talked of Mr. Carteret's being afflicted with the gravel, and I recommended to him laudanum, as a medicine that relieved the pain of his distemper, by relaxing the passages. Then we returned to the business of Clements, and he told me that he heard he was a farmer. I replied, he had farms, but always lived in Harwich, and had two years ago been Mayor. That he was a man of the best sense in Harwich, and of good substance. He said since Sansón had died 100Í. in debt to the Government, that for the future all Agents of Packets should give security for their honesty, notwithstanding they are bound quarterly to return the money due from them, which arrives from passengers. That this is more necessary since members of Parliament recommend their voters for such places, which is to the hazard at least, if not to the prejudice, of Government's service. That had the matter been left to the Office, he should have been for letting qualified persons rise gradually as vacancies happen, as an encouragement to under officers to do their duty, besides that they are presumed to be better qualified than other persons. I told him I took it ω of Sansón that he kept the captains of the Packets on shore to vote against a Mayor I had set up, contrary, as I understood, to an order of his masters. He replied, if he did, it was without orders ; that Mr. Leathes had indeed been at the Board to desire tnat favour, and made use of Sir Robert Walpole's name, to which ne answered that the Board would not give that order, but if Sft 12 DÎAEÏ· 0F Tfflffi Jan. 23-25 Sansón did, they would wink at it. Then he acquainted me how ill my brother Parker had used him in recommending me to the borough, after the great friendship between them, and his defending him against the ill-will of GaLfred Walpole, at that time joint Post Master, but assured me that he never had any ill-will for it against me. I thanked him, and so we parted with great civility. I then went to the House, where an unexpected debate happened upon two questions moved by Sir Jo. Rushout and Will. Pulteney, namely, the first that papers might be addressed for relating to the Treaty of Seville, and secondly, papers relating to the Treaty of Vienna. Sir Robert Walpole opposed both, on account that we are now in negotiations not yet finished. He also justified that the present situation of affairs in Europe is not owing to the measures taken by our Court. This would be proper when we debate the state of the nation. Mr. Pulteney said his Majesty's Speech desires our advice, but we cannot give it till .we know who advised the measures formerly taken by him, for we must first know that before we can tell how to get Europe out of this scrape. He knew from what critical time to date our ill situation. No reason to refuse papers out of fear of disobliging some foreign Princes. He acknowledged that if our negotiations are not over, it is not fit to call for papers, but he thinks them over, but what is now doing abroad is our Ministers' ill management. He would know what instructions our Ministers gave in favour of our merchants, before the introduction of 6,000 Spanish troops into Italy. The weakness of the Emperor and strength of France may prove our own handiwork. We are a shifting Ministry. We are called upon to lay our finger on a blot, but he desires the papers to know what blot to hit. Sir William Windham and Shippen spoke on the same side, and Pelham, Horace Walpole, and Sir William Young on the other. Mr. Danvers said we all agree that the public Treaties shall be laid before the House, but what advantage can we get by calling for the papers relating thereto ? It had been said the voice of the nation was against the Ministry, but in his two neighbouring counties he found the judgment of both parties was only that this contest is who shall be Minister. He concluded that this is a critical time, and it may be dangerous to have particular papers before us. Then the question was put, and we divided upon it, whether the papers relating to the Treaties of Seville and Vienna should be called for. The Ayes who went out were 104. The No's were 195. I saw Sir Robert, and asked him whether Lord Lovel had shewn him a memorial in favour of another person for to succeed Sansón. He answered Lord Lovel was not yet come to town ; I said if he pleased to confirm his resolution to Mr. Carteret it would do well. He replied he would write to him, and since he had promised me the place, to be sure he would keep it. I said it was unnecessary for him to write, but I would let Mr. Carteret know it. This morning, before the House met, I called at the Georgia Board, where we reasoned about moving the House about the Palatine money in Queen Anne's reign, and about sending Vaudois FIRST EABL OF EGMONT. 13 1733-4. to Georgia. A letter was read from one of their agents at Rotterdam, desiring an allowance for a minister, but that we could not afford. We were a Board of Trustees. Dr. Bundy in the chair, the other members were Lord Tyrconnel, Sloper, Egmont, La Roch, White, Smith, Towers, Alderman Kendal, More, Sir William Heathcot, Hucks. Dined at home, and went in the evening to the Haymarket playhouse. Thursday, 24.—This morning I wrote to Mr. Carteret what Sir Robert told me yesterday, who sent me back word that the deputation for Peck should be made out as soon as Lord Lovel came to town, which would be this day se'nnight, and that Clement's commission should be immediately ordered. I wrote to Clements upon it, as also to Page, who had sent me an angry letter for being disappointed of the Agent's place. I visited brother Parker, who arrived from Arwarton last night. I went to the House, where nothing passed material. Dined at home, and in the evening went to the play. Friday, 25.—This morning I visited Sir Charles Bunbury, Sir Thomas Hanmer, my brother Percival, son Hanmer, Mr. Temple, the Bishop of Cloyn, Dr. Berkeley and Mr. Southwell. Mr. Southwell showed me a letter from Dr. Coghill, that the Parliament of Ireland apprehending the displeasure of the Court of England (on acccount of the resolution they had agreed in, to communicate all heads of Bills to each House before they presented them to the Lord Lieutenant to be transmitted for England) had purposely raised a dispute between the two Houses for a pretence to repeal that their resolution, so that on occasion of an affront done the House of Commons by the Lords in rejecting heads of a Bill that were sent up by the Commons, without a debate or giving a reason for that rejection, the Commons by a majority of 100 against 25 voted they would communicate no more heads of Bills to the Lords. My brother Percival told me the breach between the King and Prince of Wales, his son, is made up, which I afterwards heard confirmed to me, which gave me great joy. Mr. Temple told me that the reason why we have hitherto kept out of war, is that the Queen is much against war, lest the King should go abroad, which if there be war he will certainly do. This is the secret history why Sir Robert Walpole, who depends on the Queen, has shifted so often and made so many treaties to avoid our embarking in war. I went not to the House, imagining there would be no business of moment, but they sat till five o'clock, and had a division upon a motion made by Mr. Sands to address the King for the instruc tions given to our Ministers in Poland since the year 1729. The Court carried against addressing by a majority of 202 against 114. There was another division on another motion made by Mr. Sands, to address the King to acquaint us what applications had been made to his Majesty by foreign Powers in consequence of treaties and engagements entered into with them. On which the previous question being put, the Court carried it against the motion, 192 against 102. 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Saturday, 26.—This morning I visited brother Parker, who told me Coleman was five days ago in town. I wonder he did not call to visit my son. I visited Lord Grantham ; I found by him that the Duke of Dorset is not yet well esteemed at Court. That the coolness between the King and Prince is pretty well made up, but still that Mr. Dodington, who was his principal adviser in matters, is not well approved of, though I suppose he has been instrumental in the reconciliation. I visited Mr. Cox, .the clergyman, of Ireland. I heard this day that the Whig discontented Lords had set up a club at the King's Arms, of which the Duke of Bedford is the first chairman. Lord Cobham, Stairs, Montrose, etc., are of it. They will not suffer a Tory to be of it, and the members are such as have been at Court, but not spoke to when there. How vain and ridiculous is mankind ! After dinner I went to Covent Garden playhouse. Sunday, 27.—This morning I went to Chapel. Mr. Walpole visited me this day, and explained several transactions of the Ministry in the late King's time in a different light from what they are laid down in the late pamphlet, entitled, Tim Politics on Both Sides, a book much cried up by the discontented party. He also denied himself to be the author of A Letter to the Craftsmen, attributed to liim. He told me the Rump Steak Club, lately set up, has its name from an expression of my Lord Falmouth, who, coming up to town, and going to the King's Levée, was not spoke to, whereupon he said the King had turned his rump to him. Cousin Scot and Dr. Couraye dined with me. I passed the even ing at home. Mr. Walpole told me they think of paying off a million of the Navy debt out of the Sinking Fund, rather than to mortgage the nation ; and that it was uncertain whether a vote of credit, or a vote of confidence, would be demanded ; the former is a sum given not to "be accounted for ; the latter is expressive of the pur poses it is to be employed in, and account given thereof to Parliament. He believed it would be the latter. He further told me that the breach between the King and Prince was made up after some sort, and he hoped would grow better still, but he wished the King could have been brought to give him some money. I had heard the King had promised to augment his allowance, and pay his debts, for which he was to give up the influence he has on the Cornish boroughs, and to forbid Mr. Pulteney and his lady from visiting Mrs. Vane. At parting I desired to know if he had lately seen Mr. Leathes. He replied no, but had my man got the Agency ? I answered not yet, but I supposed it would be done. Yes, said he, I told FIRST EARL OF EGMONT. 15 1733-4. Mr. Leathes it must be so. I said my friends should be for him, and Mr. Leathes should be spoke to that his should be for my son ; he replied it must be so, it must be so. Then, laughing, he asked if my wife was reconciled to him. I said, yes, all past things are forgot ; well, said he, I must come and drink tea with her, and pray tell your son I came to see him. The town says the King has given the Prince the Principality of Wales, and thereupon the Prince immediately put in the Sheriff of Cornwall, whom the King desired. Though the Court gives out that the Prince of Orange recovers daily at Bath, all the letters from thence say the contrary ; that he is so weak as not to be able to deliver the cards he deals, which are taken out of his hands by another ; that he sees little company, but reads alone, contrary to liis physician's advice, and is exceeding low-spirited ; that he is helped upon his horse, etc. ; in a word that he is not better than when he went first down ; yet his physician writes that he improves much in his health, and that he now knows the Prince of Orange again, whom he had not seen since his landing in England, meaning he has the health again he enjoyed when in Holland. Monday, 28.—This morning I went to the House, where after a debate of an hour and half, we resolved ourselves into a Committee of Ways and Means, and voted 20,000 seamen ; Mr. Sands, Heathcot, Will Pulteney, Waller, and Lord Tyrconnel were for delaying this resolution till we see further into the affairs of Europe ; but Clutterbuck, Sir Charles Wager, Scroop, Winnington and Sir Barnard were for the motion, and Captain Vernon for 30,000 seamen. Mr. Sands said we know not how tilings stand abroad, nor have we papers yet laid before us. We may vote either too many seamen, or too few ; if too many, we unnecessarily charge the country, and alarm our neighbours ; if too few, we touch the King's honour and safety. Let us therefore postpone this affair, and not go into a Committee till we see further, at least for a week. Mr. Clutterbuck : The motion will be only to go into a Com mittee of Supply, it is the order of the day. What number of seamen, whether few or many, will be there properly debated, but is not now. Lord Tyrconnell : Affairs are so difficult as to puzzle the wisest head. We are all agreed to support the King, but the point is in what manner and how far. The original of tliis war did not relate to England ; who is King of Poland is no more to us than who is Mayor of Chester. No powers have broken with us, but hasty proceedings may involve us in a war as long and expensive as the former, but without the same alliances. The King in his Speech has promised to do nothing but in concert with Holland ; we should know how they are disposed before we engage too far, and he hoped we should not stand single. He was for delay. Sir Charles Wager : I am surprised the motion for going into a Committee should be put off, seamen are long in getting, and now is the season. The French are beforehand with us, they are actually fitting out forty-two men-of-war, and the Spaniards have twenty ; besides, he is informed the French have bought several ships in the Thames to make privateers of. The French do not fit out ships against the Emperor. If we don't provide \ \ „03° \ "iff * 16 DIAEY OF THE Jan. 28 seamen in time, we shall want them when we seek for them. I am sure 99 in a hundred without doors are for our voting a great number of seamen, and the security of our trade may require it. Will Pulteney : I am not for going so soon into a Committee. Let us know what part we are to act before we vote for seamen. I wish gentlemen may treat each other with candour, and think that it is our judgments, not animosity, that makes us take different sides in this question. We only desire a small delay to look about us, and see what we do, and the nation will then be satisfied. Papers have not been communicated to us ; the House was pleased last day to think it not proper to ask for them, but a little time may make it necessary for his Majesty to communicate them to us, and there are precedents of it. We know not yet to what our treaties oblige us. It is said other nations are putting them selves in a condition to hurt us ; and then it is asked, shall not we arm for our defence ? Yes, we will, when we see what we are to do. The number of seamen we raise will depend on our being on the offensive or defensive side. Again, if we act in concert with the Dutch, as I hope we shall, or not at all, one number will be necessary, if otherwise a greater number. If we act not at all, the same number as last year, or a few more, will be sufficient to guard our coast. A great armament will alarm Spain and France. They may think we intend to partake in the war against them, for certainly we fit no fleet against the Emperor. Spain may seize our merchants' effects in that kingdom and in the Indies, and France, taking advantage of our unhappy divisions at home, may be tempted to increase them. The design I hear is to vote 20,000 seamen : perhaps you may not find them, we are not sure of getting them, so much have we neglected and discouraged the sea service in favour of a standing army. Again, 20,000 seamen will cost the nation 5 or 600,OOOZ. more than the present number. We owe at present fifty millions ; let the Ministry consider what a load they take on themselves in involving the nation in further debt, only perhaps to as little purpose as in former years, expeditions to Spithead and the like. However, as we are in the most difficult situation that ever I knew, I am as unwilling to give a negative as I am afraid to give an affirmative to the question, and therefore will not vote at all. Mr. Winnington : Every reason given by the gentleman who spoke last against going into a Committee, is a reason for it. The King, in his speech, has desired us to put the nation in a state of defence, and this no Englishman can refuse. It is said if we fit out a fleet, we shall disoblige France and Spain, and they may prejudice our trade. Judge if the way to protect our trade is not to have good fleets at sea. It is said the French may increase our divisions at home ; the gentleman means, clap the Pretender upon us. What more able to defend us against invasions than a good fleet ? It is said it will be hard to get seamen, then it is fit we set about getting them as early as possible. As to trifling expeditions, he hoped to God that may be the case again, and we shall be well off ; but whether our going into a war can be avoided or not, it is necessary to have seamen. Pulteney: I desire but one word. That gentleman can turn the meaning of other's words as well as anybody. But here he mistakes the question. The question is whether we are to be FIBST EARL OF EGMONT. 17 1733-4. in a state of offence or defence ; if the latter 10 or 15,000 seamen are enough. George Heathcot : The French will take as much umbrage at a proper as an improper number of seamen raised by us. We only desire time that we may not hurry the nation into an unnecessary expense. Let us first know everything before we do anything. Mr. Waller spoke to the same purpose. Then the question was put for going into a Committee, and scarce five No's against it. Mr. Scroop moved for 20,000 seamen for the year 1734, begin ning at 1 January, 1733. Captain Vernon : Now we act more like a British Parliament than formerly. A powerful navy is the natural security of England. I wish the gentlemen at the helm had steered clear of France for some time past, which is now grown so considerable at sea. It is we who have cherished and nursed up France to this vigour, but now I hope we shall resolve with vigour. Those false miracle-mongers who can, as the Scriptures tell us, deceive even the very elect, can only be formidable to us, and I wish our great steersman had not been so fond of the Cardinal. We have for years past betrayed our King by strengthening France to put upon us a son of a whore ; while our fleets lay idle. There is a gentleman in my eye (Sir Charles Wager) whose consummate courage, conduct, and generosity had rendered Mm the darling and glory of his country ; what vexation must he have felt in his breast to be forced to submit to those dishonourable orders he received to idle away his time at Spithead in doing nothing for his countiy's service but feasting and keeping a Bartholomew fair on board ; but his friendship to others made him acquiesce, which, had he generously refused, his character had stood in a more amiaUle light. I am, Sir, a prophet of what France would do, and has done. Our trade will be undone by France. We are guarantees for the Emperor's dominions in Italy, and he is guarantee for the Protestant suc cession ; shall we see his dominions lost in one campaign ? Let France get the superiority at sea, and this kingdom will also be lost in one campaign. Port Mahone would be lost in a trice, and so would all our islands in the West Indies within one year. The least augmentation of seamen must be understood by France as designed against her ; therefore, if we do it at all, let it be to purpose. Why have the Dutch accepted a neutrality ? Because they could not depend on us ; let us act with vigour, and they will come into all our measures. This motion for 20,000 seamen only is ridiculous, weak, and contemptible. Send the whole number to the Mediterranean, they will be beaten back, and what then becomes of the Indies ? If these should be found not sufficient, you must raise more, but by that time the Session will be so advanced, you must be forced into a vote of credit. Let us show ourselves true friends to his Majesty and his family. Who is there would not expose his ufe and fortune to support them and their honour? I propose an amendment, that we grant 30,000 seamen instead of 20,000. Sir John Barnard : According to the reasons given for demanding 20,000 seamen, I think that not a sufficient number, tor should we go into war, we must have more for that purpose, Wt. 5606. Β 2 \ 18 DIAEY OF THE Jan. 28-Feb. 4 and at the same time for to protect our trade, but if we intend only to act defensively they are enough. I see every day more and more the ill-effects of past administration, but I cannot agree that this nation can be in danger from the French, although we wanted the assistance of our neighbours. The affection we bear the present Royal Family is too rivetted and general to make us fear anything from the Pretender. I see no reason why we should apprehend the French powers destroying the balance of Europe ; his hands are full. The Emperor, in alliance with Saxony and Russia, is a match for him without us. Stanislaus will certainly not continue King of Poland, and the charge of the Italian war will distress France, who to my knowledge is now in want of money. If we lie by, we shall grow rich and the French nation poor, for their trade must suffer. I am for 20,000 men, but I lay in my claim that we do not act precipitately, nor on any account engage in war but in conceit with the Dutch, and that they bear their part, otherwise they will run away with all the trade, and then if we do go to war, let us do it vigorously, that it may be sooner over. It will indeed occasion a heavy land tax, which may dis please the people, but I shall be for raising at least five or six million. Sir Charles Wager : I agree 20,000 seamen are not enough to carry on a war, but that number will, I hope, prevent a war. Then the question for 20,000 seamen was put and passed without a division, there not being heard above three No's. I dined at home. My son told me he had been with Mr. Walpole this morning, who talked freely to him of many things and the characters of several gentlemen in the House, which showed much cunning or much confidence in my son. I passed the evening at home. I received a letter from Clements that he was appointed Agent of the Packets. Tuesday, 29.—This morning I visited Mr. Clark, of Spring Gardens, and Frank Clerke. Went to the House, where we agreed to the Committee's report of 20,000 seamen. Dined at home, and then went to Hendel's opera, called " Ariadne." Wednesday, 30.—This day I received a very angry letter from Robert Page, threatening to desert my interest if I do not get Clements to allow him 501. a year out of his place, advertising me also that Mr. Leathes has taken Sanson's late dwelling-house, and will not have to do with my friends, and that a third body is to come to stand, and will carry it against my son by a wager of 500/. Mr. Clements also writ me that Mr. Leathes carried it with my friends in the same strange way as before, and bids me look about me ; that Page had refused my present to him, and his wife said he should be no more for me. It was but yesterday that my cousin Fortrey was told young Philipson would stand at Harwich, but not without the Government's interest. I passed the day at home. Thursday, 31.—I visited Lord Wilmington, Lord Bathurst, Sir Edmund Bacon, brother Parker, and Mr. Walpole. I told Mr. Walpole how Leathes acts at Harwich : that he went thither Sunday last and has taken a house, that he continues to shew himself cool to my friends, that wagers of 500/. have been offered to be laid by some of his friends that my son shall lose his election; that one has offered 2,000/, to be chosen, who I FIRST EAKL OF EGMONT. 19 1733-4. 1733-4. Ijelieved was Heath ; that they say young Philipson will stand. That as I am very sincere for Leathes, he ought to shew himself so for my son. He replied it was needless in Leathes to take a house there ; that I ought not to mind what voters write up from corporations, nor the factions in them ; that when Leathes came up he would invite him and me and my son to dinner and make up differences. Sir George Sa vile visited me, and I went with him to the House, where Sir Jo. Barnard presented a petition for the hindering the running of wool from England and Ireland, and of woollen manufacture from Ireland to foreign parts. The petition was referred to a Committee of the whole House for Tuesday next. My son writ this post to Page to come up. I went this evening to the public meeting of the Vocal Society, which was much crowded. Friday, 1 February.—This day I visited Sir Edward Dering, and Mr. Hucks ; then went to the House, where in a Committee we voted the malt tax. I dined and remained the evening at home. Saturday, 2.—This day I visited the Bishop of Cloyn, daughter Hanmer and brother Percival. I went to Court. Dined and passed the evening at home. Sunday, 3.—Went to chapel, then to Court. Dr. Couraye dined with me, and told me he was on Thursday last above two hours with the Queen, but the impertinence of Lord Harvey's staying all that time in'the room prevented his speaking to her so fully as he intended about his translation of Father Paul's history. In the evening I went to chapel, and then to the coffee house. Monday, 4.—This morning Lord Wilmington visited me. He told me the Parliament of Ireland had done well to recall their resolution of communicating their heads of Bills to each other's House before they presented them to the Lord Lieutenant, for that if they had not the matter had been highly resented here ; and that even yet some of the Ministry are for passing some severe censure to deter the Parliament from ever attempting the same again, but he hoped to get them to be quiet. He said the method they were going in would have so lengthened business that their Parliament must have set the whole year. He said there are yet but four Bills come over. That as to the Bill for relieving the creditors of Burton's Bank, it would pass here, unless petitioned against by any who might think themselves aggrieved thereby, which petitions must be heard, and their reasons debated. He also said the Popish Solicitors' Bill is come over, and that two petitions have been presented to Council against it, one in the name of the Papists in general, the other by a lawyer here, named French, who petitioned in the behalf of the Protestants of Ireland, as falling hard on the new converts who practice as solicitors. I visited Sir George Savile and Lord Palmerston. I went to the House, where Sir John Barnard presented a petition ot the dealers in tea, praying to be relieved from the Excise laws. Alter the same was read, he moved to refer it to a Committee of the whole House. Γ ^WaS ^PP01*^ therein by Perry, Pulteney, Sands, Gibbons, U>ckburn and Plummer, and opposed by Winnington, Sir W. Young, f \ \ fc 20 DIABY OF THE Feb. 4 Pelham, Sir Robert Walpole and Danvers, and in the division we carried it to let the petition lie on the table, 233 against 155. The debate lasted three hours. On one hand it was alleged that the Excise laws have not answered their end with respect to tea, the duty of which since it was put under the Excise has answered less to the Revenue than before, while at the same time since the consumption is much greater ; why then should the druggists and retailers of tea be shackled with inquisitions and penalties that distinguish them from the rest of their fellow subjects, and render them perfect slaves, when the Revenue would increase if the Excise were taken off, and tea subjected only to the laws of the Custom House. This is the only commodity the duty of which is followed to the retailer, therefore those who are fond of Excises need not fear that other petitions will come to ease the Excise of other things now subject .fco Excise laws. We are told the designed shortness of the Session will not admit of treating this affair, and that it will come better next year, but the evil requires a more speedy redress, for smug gling is become so great and so bold as to be inconsistent with the safety of civil government. We see bodies of 50 or 60 men at a time, well horsed and armed, who put both the officers of the Revenue and the Dragoons who assist them at defiance ; all the idle men of the country join them, and are kept in constant pay ; half a crown a day is their reward only for keeping themselves in readiness, and a guinea to assist when the tea is landed. The tea they run comes into the retailers' hands, and at least 200,OOOZ. per annum is lost to the Revenue. How can it be otherwise, when the duty on tea without distinction of good and bad is five shillings, though it cost us but sixpence in China, and but two shillings in Holland ? nevertheless, the common price in the country is but five shillings. Reject this petition, and the Dutch will thank you. Receive it, consider it in a Committee, and lower the duties, and then all running must cease of course, for none will venture to run when it is no longer worth their while to do it. If all the tea should pay a moderate duty, the Revenue will amount to more than now ; that half what we consume is run ; besides, we shall keep our money at home, and honesty will be countenanced. If the Session be too short to consider this matter, why did we not meet earlier ? Can we answer it to our country, to meet only to continue the most oppressive taxes and laws upon them, and not give them even a faint hope of redressing them ? We are content the Ministry should not regard the public, and only think of supporting the Revenue, but surely we might expect they would have so much regard to the Revenue as not to let 200,OOOZ. a year slip through their fingers. The druggists offered this petition last year, but they were told they were not unanimous, and besides, if the House then received it, it would look as the effect of clamour, but it should be done next year. Now they are come again, you put them off to another year. But what member can say (even the greatest man here) that he himself shall be in Parliament next year, at least that he shall have the power he has now ? Former Parliaments would not postpone the grievances of the subject at such a rate, and leave the honour of redressing them to future assemblies. It were indeed fit that all things were eased of Excise laws ; all men's houses, from the greatest to the least are liable ÈÎBST EARL OS1 EGMONT. 21 1733-4. to be entered, and the Excise is more immediately under the power of a Minister than the Customs. It is to be feared that last year's clamours against that wicked project of excising tobacco will revive, and some mischievous effect follow the rejecting this petition. Suppose you should not wholly remove the Excise of this commodity, but lower the duty only, or leaving it as high as now it is on the best teas, lower it on the worst, so as to make the several teas pay ad valorem, would not this be worth your going into a Committee, would this take up much time, and would it not raise the Revenue by taking away the advantages of running this commodity ? Upon the whole, if you reject this petition, it will be impossible to think you do it for any other reason than to pre serve an influence on the Elections of the approaching Parliament. On the Court side, it was said that notwithstanding the great quantity of teas now run, the lowest year's Revenue since tea was under the Excise has proved more than the highest while under the Customs only. That it is not the manner of collecting the duty, but the greatness of the duty, which occasions the smug gling, so that unless the duty be lessened, the throwing the collection again entirely under the Customs will not mend the matter; while therefore the high duty remains, the addition of Excise laws to those of the Customs must be of service to the Revenue. But is this a time to lower any duties ? Besides, these duties are appropriated to the aggregate fund, and may be hazarded by hasty and immature conclusions. Should we now alter the course of the collection of this revenue, or lessen the duties, it possibly might lessen the Revenue, when, if we should go into a war, there will be rather occasion to increase it ; besides, the countenance shown this petition by receiving it, will unavoidably draw petitions from the dealers in all other commodities now under Excise, and it would be a partial procedure not to give them equal encouragement, but where should we be then ? The Excise has been laid on tea seven years and half, and it is confessed that one year of that time the duty did amount to little more than the highest year while tea was only under the Customs ; this was the year 1729, when eight China ships, four French and four Dutch, brought great quantities of tea into Europe, which lessened our export of that commodity, but they were obliged to sell it so cheap that they had little encouragement to do the same again, and now having disposed of what they brought, our teas for foreign export will recover its price. The thing proves itself, for the practice of smuggling here begins to abate, nor did it begin to be very notorious till the abovementioned year 1729. It has been urged that in 1723, the year before tea was Excised, that the duty yielded 214.000Z., and that now last year it yielded but 120,000i., but to this we ought to add the profits by seizures, which amounted to 27,OOOZ., as also the duty of that vast quantity oí tea in the East India Company's warehouse, amounting to some millions of pounds, which pays no duty till come to be sold, and ol which great part must be put to the account of last year. Take Ron fuv>6n y-ears and k*1^ together at an average, and you will find oW.OOO gained to the Revenue, more than the Revenue yielded |or seven years and half before, while tea was only under the Customs. It is said they run now with violence and an armed orce ; this proves the goodness of the Excise laws, which are effectual ni" 22 DIARY OF THE FIRST EARL OF EGMONT. Feb. where force is not used, and therefore prudence will require to strengthen these laws rather than to weaken them. As to appre hensions of clamour for rejecting this petition, there is no danger of it, if artful insinuations are not again made to poison the people as last year, when they were made to fear things that never were intended. The Excise intended last year would have been of the greatest advantage to the nation, and the time will come when the nation will think so ; but gentlemen may set their hearts at rest, for he that proposed it will never propose it again. He has renounced it entirely. You talk of shackles and slavery, yet let any one say who has been grieved these twelve months past by any one Excise officer, or did any druggist or retailer of tea complain of the severities of the Excise laws till last year, when with all the villainous acts that could be used, they were spirited up to clamour ? As to who will be Minister next year, or who will be hi the House, it is speaking in the air, and the assistance of Excise officers will not be wanted in the future elections. To conclude, those who wish a short Session, and that the future Parliament should meet early to advise his Majesty in the difficult situation we are, those who wish well to the Revenue, and not to burden the people anew, which must be the case if we should by altering the present state of this tax, diminish the value of it ; those who think unanimity in this House necessary at this time to give weight to his Majesty's negotiations abroad, and who wish peace and quiet among the subjects at home, those who wish one day to see the soap or candles or some other of our manufactures eased, which can never be hoped, if this revenue on tea should be lessened by any hasty mistakes at this time com mitted — all these gentlemen will be now for rejecting the motion for referring this petition to a Committee which ought to be con sidered with great coolness, must require more time than we have to spend on it, and may produce great misunderstandings and animosities. These were the principal arguments used by each side in the debate. At my return, I found John Smith at my house, who is come up with a petition in favour of the British fishery, and desired I would back it in the House. I bid him go to Sir Jo. Barnard and know his opinion ; he said he would go to-morrow, and the Speaker favoured it. He told me he believed Bickerton would be brought to act under Clements, for that he was angry that Captain Hayes, who had pretended friendship, had interposed to get the Agency for himself. He believed that by Mr. Clements having the Agency, my son's election is secured. My son had a letter from Page, still insisting on fifty pounds a year out of Clements' place ; and I had a letter from Clements that Bickerton had refused to sign an affidavit sent down from the Post Office relating to Sansón. Tuesday, 5. — This morning I went into the city to receive bank stock and three per cent, annuities. I went to the House, and, returning in the evening to dinner, went afterwards to the Opera at the Haymarket. Wednesday, 6.— This morning I visited the Bishop of Cloyn, and then went to the Georgia Society, upon a summons for the Common Council to meet to order the payment of bills drawn by 1733-4. Mr. Oglethorp, and for a Board of Trustees to grant a commission to the Rector and Churchwardens of St. George's Parish, Hanover Square, to collect benefactions. Mr. Hucks was in the chair, and we were a very numerous assembly : Earl of Shaftesbury, Lord Tyrconnel, Earl of Egmont, Sir Will Heathcot, Mr. Digby, Lapautre, Thomas Towers, White, La Roche, Dr. Bundy, Vernon, Holland, Moore, Hales, Sloper— 16 Common Council ; Captain Coram, Mr. Smith, Christopher Towers—Trustees, 3. We refused paying or accepting a bill drawn on us by Mr. Oglethorp for want of advice. We impressed 500Ï. to Mr. Heathcot for the answering bills which were accepted by us or of which Mr. Oglethorp gave us advice. We also took into consideration the great sums collected for the Palatine refugees in Queen Anne's reign, which never was paid into their use, or had yet come out of the hands of the collectors. We resolved to petition the Parliament to enquire into the abuse, and then to apply for all or part to be given us for the use of our Georgia Settlement, which must be done by Act of Parliament. Dr. Bundy was desired to frame a form of petition to be shown at our next meeting. We appointed on our anniversary day that Mr. Anderson should bespeak a dinner for 36 heads, and that Mr. Hales should preach the sermon at St. Bride's, where in the vestry we are to meet at eleven o'clock. I was very much disgusted that Dr. Rundell, whose preferment to the Bishopric of Gloucester is so much contested, should have been desired to preach the sermon for us next Sunday se'nnight at St. George's Church, as also that he should have been desired to be one of our trustees when we next meet to choose new persons in. This was done officiously by Mr. Martin, our Secretary, without any direction of our Board. This Dr. Rundall was tutor to the present Lord Chancellor Talbot's children, and is now his chaplain. The late Bishop of Durham (Talbot) first preferred him. Upon the death of Dr. Lydall, Bishop of Gloucester, the Lord Chancellor, even before he had kissed hands, applied to her Majesty that Dr. Rundall might succeed him, which the Bishops of London, Chichester and Bangor violently opposed, and so continue to do, avouching that Dr. Rundall is not orthodox in the faith. There is scarce a Bishop besides who is not likewise against him on the same account, and at his consecration, if the King should think fit, notwithstanding what is alleged against this gentleman to confer the bishopric upon him, there are two clergymen of reputation who will object thereto—Mr. Ven, a London minister, and Dr. Stebbins, one of his Majesty's chaplains. They will accuse him of speaking con temptibly of the Books of Moses and of Abraham, and lay to his charge the principles of Toland, which he justified in a sermon he some years ago preached (and afterwards printed) on the fifth of November. The Bishop of London, says he, has been accused of being a Court Bishop, in view of succeeding to Lambeth, but he will show the world on this occasion that he prefers the cause of Christianity to all worldly considerations, and if this man be forced upon the Church, he will retire to Fulham, and have no more to do m public matters. Now, for our Georgia Society to draw on ourselves the ill-will ot numbers of people and particularly of the clergy, by showing 24 DÍARY OP THE Feb. 6-10 Dr. Rundall the respect of desiring him to preach a sermon for us, and afterwards taking him into our body, is, I think, a very indiscreet step, but I fear it is gone too far, thanks to our Secretary's forwardness. After the Board was up, I went to the House, where I found them entered into the debate for raising 1,800 soldiers to supply the place of three regiments, part of the British establishment now at Gibraltar. By which means the full number of the standing army granted for Great Britain will (as it was at first designed) be made up 18,000 men, and the garrison of Gibraltar be effectually made a distinct establishment ; whereas at present the absence of the three regiments abovementioned renders the establishments for Great Britain weaker than was designed, and consequently our security is so much less ; which is not safe to allow at this time, when we know not how we may be obliged to act and take part in the present war, and what insults or invasions may be made on us in case we are unprovided of defence, besides that our mediation abroad to procure peace will have more weight when it shall be seen that we are disposed to act on one side or the other, in case our mediation should prove unsuccessful. Sir William Wyndham and all the anti-courtiers were content not to reduce the army, but opposed augmenting it, unless the Ministry would let them see the necessity of it, and therefore moved and insisted on an amendment to the question, namely, that the garrison of Gibraltar should be included in the full number of 18,000 men. After four hours' debate, we rejected the amendment by a hundred majority—262 against 162. The speakers against the Court were : Shippen, Sir W. Windham, Palmer, Pulteney, Plummer, Digby, Vernon, Sir John St. Aubin. Those who spoke for the Court were : Pelham, Sir Robert Walpole, Sir William Young, the Speaker, George Heathcot, Danvers, and Sir Joseph Jekyl, who yet voted against us. Then the main question was carried without a division; but I returned home before, and after dinner went to our Wednesday Club, where I engaged the gentlemen to come as usual to my music. Thursday, 7th.—This day I visited Mr. Blackwood, to return his visit, then went to the House, where I expected the affair of pre venting the running of wool would come on, but it was put off to Tuesday next, I dined and passed the evening at home. Friday, 8.—This morning I went to St. James's Vestry to consider of my Lord Craven's desire that we would join in his petition to the Lords for a Bill to grant him the Pest fields, in lieu of other land he will set out for the same purpose. I left them undetermined what to do, being obliged to go to the Georgia Society. We were a full board of Common Council at the Georgia Society, viz., Earl of Shaftesbury, Lord Tyrconnell, T. Towers, Moore, George Heathcot, Sir Will Heathcot, Digby, Sloper, Lapautre, Bundy, Lord Carpenter, Hucks, White, Egmont, and Mr. Holland in the chair. We read a petition from the subscribers to the Palatines in 1709, complaining that one Walker had taken out a great number of briefs, by which, as they have been informed, near 20,OOOZ. had been collected for settling those Palatines in America, but that the money had not been applied to that use, wherefore they desire the tTRST EABL OP EGMONT. 25 1733-4. Parliament will enquire into the abuse, and that the money may go to furthering the Georgia Colony or to some other public purpose. Dr. Bundy told us there are persons will prove to the Commons the fact alleged in the petition, wherefore we gave the petition to Mr. Douglas, a solicitor, to get proper hands to it, after which we intend to offer it to Parliament, the Speaker having seen and approved the petition. We also resolved to send some mill-wrights over upon an application from a principal maker of mills for sawing timber now in Georgia. Mr. Martin, our Secretary, told me Dr. Rundall had assured him that he will preach a sermon for Georgia on Sunday se'nnight at St. George's Church, near Hanover Square. So we cannot prevent it, now the matter is gone so far. We had some discourse of the expediency of appointing a Committee of Correspondence, which is referred to the next meeting. I dined at home, with cousin Cornwallis and brother and sister Percival, and spent the evening at home. Saturday, 9th.—This morning I visited Mr. Man, tutor, governor and companion of the late Marquis of Blandford, who in the summer had presented me with a very learned and ingenious book of his composing, entitled, Of the True Tear of the Birth and Death of Christ, wherein he proves that Herod was a Jew and not an Idumean, and that the mission of our Blessed Saviour was not as is commonly thought three years, but only one. There is much learning, reading and judgment appears through the whole work, and a style suitable to the subject with great perspicuity of expression. I went to Court, and at my return to dinner found Robert Page, for whom my son had wrote down to Harwich to come up, that we might by showing him a true state of the case convince him that he was in the wrong to take it ill that he had not the Agent's place. This my wife and my son did explain to him, and he remained satisfied that he was under a mistake. In the even ing I carried him to the Opera. Sunday, 10th.—This morning I went to chapel, then to Mr. Clerke's, then home. Sir Edmond Bacon visited me. Then I went to Court, where I was pleased with what the Prince said on occasion of the poverty of France, of which Brigadier Gore gave him account. Turning to me he said : " See the effect of arbitrary power ! A country the best seated in Europe for trade, and abounding with industrious inhabitants, is yet beggarly. This can only proceed from arbitrary government." I replied : " Sir, the people of England are very happy that your Royal Highness has such sentiments." Jx> which he readily said : "My family have such obligations to JSngland that I ought to have them." " Sir," answered I, " it is certain God never designed that 99 men in a hundred should lie at wie absolute pleasure of one man to destroy them." I then placed •rage in the King's dining-room, to see the Royal Family at dinner, and returned home. In the evening I took Page to the chapel, and then took leave of him, wishing him a good journey to Harwich. He told me he had seen Mr. Heath yesterday, and discouraged him from standing at Harwich. After this I visited Sir Thomas Hanmer, Colonel Schutz, «tf· Schutz, son Hanmer and brother Percival. I learned the 1 '"*;>, ./,«'*' ·>- \ 26 DIAEV OP THE Feb. 10-12 Prince of Orange will not return so soon as was expected from Bath, which some say will be three weeks hence, and that the King has ordered an enlargement of the wooden gallery for the pro cession at the marriage. Monday, 11.—I went to the Georgia Board, where at a Board of Trustees we met as follows : Lord Tyrconnell in the chair, Mr. Moore, White, Hucks, Vemon, Egmont. We ordered a Com mittee of Correspondence, consisting of Common Councilmen and Trustees, to open letters and prepare drafts of answers to be laid before the Board. Dined at home, and in the evening visited Jack Temple. Tuesday, 12.—I visited Mr. Hill, of the Custom House, and gave him a memorandum for a boatman's place at Harwich, in the room of one James Smith, deceased. Page, when in town, had recommended to me one Bryant, but yesterday John Smith recommended one Walker. I preferred the former, because he was first mentioned to me. This boatman's place being under the Custom House on the old establishment, is to receive his com mission from the Treasury ; wherefore I called there upon Mr. Scroop, the Secretary, and gave him a like memorandum in favour of Bryant abovementioned. This day came on the affair of the wool, and Sir John Barnard was made chairman of the Committee. But nothing was done, and he was directed to desire leave to sit again. The reason why nothing was done, was the various sentiments gentlemen were of, and many were for not going at all into a Committee. Sands was for reviving the Bill which two years ago miscarried in the House of Lords, the chief purport of which was to take off the duty on Irish yarn. Sir John Rushout was of the same opinion, but if this last were not agreed to, yet several other parts of that Bill might be revived. Mr. Walpole was for going into a Committee to see what could be done ; he approved taking off the duty of Irish yarn, as the best means to prevent running wool and woollen goods from thence, but should not be for it now, lest the Lords should again throw out the Bill. Something must be done, for the Irish increase in their clandestine export of woollen goods to Lisbon, of which he has a list of eighteen ships, with their cargoes, arrived at Lisbon last year, amounting to no less than 14,000 pieces of woollen goods. The sloops lately built have done some good, but not all that was expected. Mr. Whitworth was for leaving the chair and doing nothing, and read a letter from Minehead, setting forth that since the fitting out the sloops, more Irish wool has come in thither in one year than in the three preceding years. Mr. Palmer was for Sir John's leaving the chair in case the taking off the duty on Irish yarn should be insisted on, otherwise for a Bill. Mr. Thompson, the Commissioner of the Customs in Ireland, said he had lately been in Ireland, and could speak with certainty of the condition of that country, having been employed to make a progress there for that very purpose. That he must do the merchants of Cork the justice to say that they were very candid and open to him ; they did iiot conceal that they run woollen FIRST EABL OS EGMONT. 27 1733-4. 1733-4. goods to Lisbon, but complained necessity drove them to it since England would not take off the duty on their yarn. That they proposed England should buy their yarn at a certain price, and then the poor of their kingdom would be supported by the spinning their wool, who otherwise must starve. That the sloops cost yearly 25,000i., but ΙΟ,ΟΟΟί. added more would buy up all their yam, which England might put into storehouses, to be sold at a higher price than the same yarn sells at now, which would help to supply our weavers in England, after all the English yarn is consumed, as happens before a year is out. And what loss could this be to England, if by this means we deprive France of Irish wool, and Lisbon of Irish manufactures, which would be the case ; we should then soon wish that Ireland had more wool and yarn to send us. The raising the value of Irish yarn so bought, when come to be sold out of the warehouses, would be an inducement to our weavers to buy English yarn while it lasted, but when that is gone, would be a fresh supply ; at the same time that the French manufacture must decline for want of materials from us. If this method were taken, he believed the assurances the merchants gave him were sincere that nothing would be run from Ireland, nor could be, for the spinners would be all spies and detectors of those who should run wool abroad ; but if this method be not taken, it is not a hundred sloops will answer our ends. Captain Vernon said our laws against running wool and woollen goods are sufficient if well executed : wherefore he moved Sir John Barnard might leave the chair, and that the House might resolve on a Bill to reinforce the laws in being. Sir Abraham Elton rose to second him. Giles Earl, a Commissioner of the Revenue in Ireland, said this was an affair of the greatest consequence to the trade and well being of England ; the laws are already as severe as can be, and make what others you will, the people of Ireland will not execute them, the penalties are so severe no jury in Ireland will find a person guilty, as was the case in England when it was made death to run. The only method to prevent it is to let Ireland into some small share of the trade, for their poor must be subsisted, and he knew nothing so capable to prevent their running as to take off the duty on their yarn. We ought to let others live, and make it the interest of Ireland to answer our desires. We ought to look on the Irish as part of ourselves, as Englishmen. We complain of their running woollen goods to Lisbon, that was of service to us, for the French undersold the English till the Irish took it up, and beat out the French ; besides, it is the London mer chants who have the advantage of it, for it is they who buy those manufactures by their Agents, and send them abroad. He wondered nobody had mentioned the running of wool from England, which is of equal bad consequence to our manufactures. Mr. Danvers said we have not yet experienced the thorough advantage of the sloops lately built, and should wait with patience a few years ; besides, Ireland should have time allowed her to alter the manner of stocking her lands. But to talk of bringing over Irish yarn duty free, is to send all our spinners to •Ireland for want of employment at home. He hoped no English man would turn Irishman by going over thither. He reflected much on Ireland, adding that means should be found to prevent 28 DIABY OF THE Feb. 12-13 their growing wool more than necessary for their home consump tion, and seeing gentlemen were so unprepared to talk of this matter, moved for leaving the chair. Mr. Neal said there was a sure method to prevent the running .of wool both from England and Ireland, namely, for the Parliament to buy all the wool and yarn of both kingdoms, and sell it again at a proper price. Sir John Bushout : The House, in expectation of a call, was very full when Sir John Barnard took the chair, and now it is very thin, a melancholy observation when so important a point is in debate. We passed two years ago an extraordinary good Bill, which by the lateness of the Session was lost in the other House. It were well to revive that Bill, perhaps the Lords will pass it ; the best thing in it was the taking off the duty on Irish yarn ; but if we think a new Bill will have the same fate as that other on this account, let us drop that thought and think of some thing else, but to say the Irish shall grow no wool is ridiculous. It may seem a paradox, but it is true in fact, that the more wool England will have at market, the dearer it will be because worth more. For the increase will be what usually is run to France, of which when they are deprived, their woollen trade must of course decrease, and that will set ours on a better foot, but manufacture will have a greater demand, and that will raise the value of our wool. What ought we not to do to hinder the running of our wool to France when every hundred pounds' worth when thoroughly manufactured is worth 600Z. ? Let us think of some heads for the foundation of a Bill. I should propose :— 1. That provision be made against the fraudulent exporting raw wool from Great Britain, under pretence of its being manufactured. This deceit was discovered two years ago, when at the Committee we were shown the method in use of crossing coarse threads of wool, not a quarter spun, and shipping the same off to France, as stuff manufacture ; which, when arrived at port, was afterwards taken to pieces and spun over again. 2. That no wool be carried from one port to another but in canvas bags. 3. That the provisions against running wool in England be extended to Ireland. These and other things, which may be thought on, will be of some considerable service, and are worth a Bill, though they should not answer all the good we hoped for from this Committee. Sir W. Young : The taking off the duty on Irish yarn would be most advantageous, yet I am not for renewing the former Bill, lest a negative should be again put on it in the other House, and so all our labour be lost. However, I am for doing something ; indeed, from the inattention of the House I should be for Sir John Barnard's leaving the chair, but surely we ought to think of some answer to give our country. There is a great abuse in false packing, that may be remedied. George Heathcot was against doing anything in so thin a Committee, and moved for leaving the chair ; he declared himself against taking off the duty of Irish yarn. Mr. Sloper : This is purely the concern of England, and Ireland should not be mentioned or thought of. No member of this House will speak for the advantage of Ireland but as it concurs with the FIRST EARL OF EGMONT. 29 1733-4 interest of England, and yet we ought to look on that people as part of ourselves, nor are Englishmen less what they were by going into that kingdom. What millions have been lost to England by the prohibition of Irish manufacture 36 years ago. Should the duty of Irish yarn be taken off, that people would cease to run, and there would be no danger of English spinners settling there ; if they did, it would be to mend their condition, but who would go to spin for half the wages they earn here ? That fatal prohibition I speak of, carried to foreign countries above 20,000 skilful hands from Ireland, and it is no wonder the Irish run their wool, for the material will always follow the manu facturer. If England bought up all the wool and worsted of Ireland, England would grow the richer. This is so plain that I wonder gentlemen will not own it, for they must see it. But the House is so thin, I hope you will take another opportunity to consider this matter. Wherefore, I move the Chairman may rise, and desire leave to sit again. In this the Committee agreed, but my belief is that we shall hear no more of the Committee this Session. ' I returned about five o'clock to dinner, and in the evening went to the Haymarket playhouse. But first I writ to Clements, Page, and John Smith. To the first, to congratulate him on his place, his deputation being sent down him last Thursday. I also advised his making Pelham his clerk, if Bickerton will not act under him. To the second, that I had observed his recommendation of Bryant to be a boatman, and laid my request before the Treasury. To the third, that I would have served his relation Walker, whom he recommended for that place, if Page had not prevented him by applying first. Wednesday, 13.—This day I went to the Georgia Society, where we met in Common Council as follows : La Röche in the chair, Bundy, Hucks, Sir William Heathcot, Digby, White, Egmont, T. Towers, Moore—Common Council ; Coram, Smith—Trustees. Some bills, of which Mr. Oglethorp gave us advice, were accepted. Other bills also to the value of 2501. were also accepted, though we had no advice of them; by reason if we did not they would have been protested, which would have brought great scandal on our Colony, as well as have proved very detrimental on several accounts ; besides that the charge of protesting our bills would be 30 per cent, less to us, so we ordered they should be paid, not- • withstanding an order we lately made against accepting any bills not advised. Our Secretary, Mr. Martin, acquainted us that we have been under a mistake as to the brief money collected for the Palatines not being paid in, for that Mr. Bendish, Secretary to the Com missions of Briefs, had told him near 20,OOOZ. of that money had been paid into the Chamber of London, who repaid it to the merchants who transported the Palatines. That a Committee of the Commissions for the Palatines was reported to look into the return of the briefs, to whom he showed it, and afterwards a Committee of the House of Commons had seen it. We resolved to enquire further into it. After this I went to the House, where Lord Morpeth moved for a Bul to make all officers of the Army above the degree of a Colonel to hold their commissions for life, and be only removable by a 30 DIAEY OF THE Feb. 13-20 Council of War, or by address of both Houses of Parliament. This was opposed as destructive of our Constitution and received with great indignation, so that although debated four hours and a half, it was rejected without a division. Mr. Sands then moved to address the King to know his reasons for removing the Duke of Bolton and Lord Cobham ; but on a division we rejected the motion by a majority of 252 against 151. The same motions were made in the House of Lords this day, and rejected by a majority of 100 against 62. I returned home to dinner at seven o'clock, and passed the evening in my study. I received a letter from Clements that he had invited all the members of the Corporation and other principal inhabitants to an entertainment upon his being made agent, but none of the adverse party came to it, except William Richman and young Captain Wimple, who both drank success to my son and Mr. Leathes' election. I admire at the obstinacy of Mr. Leathes' friends. He also advised me that Bickerton still refuses to be his clerk, but talks of going for Ireland ; that he intended to make Pulham easy for not being his clerk by giving him the clerk's pay, and thought of making Pelham his clerk, if he can satisfy Rolf in not choosing his brother for that service. Thursday, 14.—I visited my daughter Hanmer, sister Percival, brother Parker, and Mr. Edward Walpole ; then I went to the House, and returned to dinner ; after which Colonel Selwyn called on me to go with him to the Sun Tavern in Holborn, there to meet several annuitants of the York Building Company, to consider of means to secure ourselves from any hardship that may be put on us by the Bill now depending in the House for relieving that Company. For the Bill as it stands suspends our receiving any rents out of the lands made over by the Company for our security, and puts the lessors of certain lead mines in Scotland to the Com pany upon an equal foot with ourselves to be secured out of our lands, though by adjudication in the Courts of Scotland our annuities are prior to the demand of the lessors of those mines. To remedy this injury the annuitants have prepared a clause to be inserted in the Bul. Friday, 15.—I stayed all day long at home. In the evening I had my winter's concert for the first time. The performers were : On the violoncello, Signor Caporalli, Mr. Pain, Mr. Withington ; on the violin, Mr. Needier, Mr. Mulso, Mr. Mellan, Mr. Sambroke, brother Precival, son Hanmer, Mr. Verner ; on the hautbois, Mr. Bothmar: the great bass, Mr. ————. The singers were Mr Matheis Mrs. Bertholdi, daughter Hanmer, and daughter Helena, and Signor Aragoni ; the harpsichord, Mr. Bagnall. The company were the Duchess of Kent, Lady Nassau, Lady ____ Nassau, Baron Hatolf's Lady and daughters, Lady Hanmer, rf iy ~r——— g> Mrs· MinsnuU, sister Percival, cousin Scot, Duke of Portland, Sir Thomas Hanmer, Sir Jo. Evelyn, Mr. Hill, Mr. Baker, Mr. Clerk, Count de Leck, cousin Fortrey, Sir Charles Bunbury. . I heard that this day the Commons ordered a Bill for regulating tne number of officers in the House, upon a motion of Mr. Sands, FIRST BAEL OF EGMONT. 31 1733—4 which met with no opposition, but Sir Robert assured the House he would oppose it in the Committee. Saturday, 16,—I visited my cousin Whorwood and the Duke of Portland ; afterwards went to the Crown Tavern to hear the practice of Hendel's Te Deum, and other music to be performed at St. Paul's on Tuesday next at the Festival of the Sons of the Clergy. I dined with my brother Percival, and passed the evening at home. When the Duke of Richmond was lately down in Sussex to make interest for his relation, Sir Thomas Pendegrast, to be chosen member of the new Parliament, his adversaries merrily ordered the bellman of the town to pass with his bell at one o'clock in the morning under the window where the Duke was entertaining his company, and to repeat these lines with his usual tone— " Great men make promises and mind them not ; The service done, the promise is forgot." Thus he proceeded through other streets, so that the morning following the whole inhabitants diverted themselves with the Jest. Sunday, 17.—Prayers and sermon at home. Then went to Court, where the Queen desired me again to send her some more books of my printed heads. Son and daughter Hanmer dined with me. Went in the evening to chapel. Monday, 18.—This morning I went to the House. In the evening visited cousin Ned Southwell, cousin Betty Southwell, cousin Le Grand. Tuesday, 19.—This morning I visited Mr. Holland, the Bishop of Bangor, and Counsellor Forster, and Lord Carteret. Then went to the House, where we had a long debate upon the new Qualification Bill, brought in [by] Mr. Rolls, and which was flung out upon the second reading, on a division of 208 against 127. I voted with the minority. Sir William Young, Sir Robert Walpole, Mr. Neal, and Mr. Glanvil spoke against it. Mr. Pulteney and Sir W. Wyndham spoke for it. The arguments for and against the Bill I have put among my letters. I voted for the Bill because I would have the Parliament do something popular to please the nation, and not give a handle to the discontented party to confirm them in the scandal they have thrown upon us, which they will assuredly do. This day Mr. Sands' Bill for limitation of officers to sit in the House was read the first time. He said when it came into the Com mittee he doubted not but the limitations would appear so reason able that the Bill would pass into an Act ; but Mr. Walpole told him he would not promise to be for letting it go so far. We also censured a person at our bar for saying in public com pany that Sir William Milner, member for York City, has a pension of 500Z. a year, and that he knew who paid it. The person owned he said the words, but denied he said he knew who paid it. I returned home to dinner, and then went to Drury Lane playhouse. This day the Treasury signed the warrant for Page's friend to be a boatman, of which my son writ Page word. Wednesday, 20th.—This morning I went to the Georgia Office to a summons both of a Common Council and Trustee Board. The members present were : Lord Shaftesbury, Lord Tyrconnel, Lord Egmont, Dr. Bundy, Alderman Kendal, Captain Eyles, \ 32 DIABY OF THE Feb. 20-22 Mr. Digby, Mr. La Roche, Mr. Sloper, Mr. Vernon, and Mr. Moore. Captain Coram, Mr. Smith, Mr. Burton, Mr. Anderson ; Dr. Bundy in the chair of Trustees. The Board desired me to tell my Lord Bathurst that Sir Francis Bathurst should have fifty acres allowed him for each servant he carried, and that his son being sixteen years old should be allowed for a servant. I acquainted the board Sir Francis had two daughters to carry, and that my Lord would give Sir Francis a hundred pounds. Mr. Anderson acquainted us that a broker in Exchange Alley, deceased, has left us a hundred pounds. We ordered the same should be advertised to encourage others to do the same. Mr. Burton presented us with ten pounds and acquainted us that the benefactor, who desires his name may be concealed, promises to continue it for five years, with design it may go towards maintaining a Catechist in our Colony. Mr. Miller, a surgeon, attended. He was recommended by Sir Hans Sloan to succeed Mr. Houston as collector of drugs and plants of use to be gathered from other countries and planted in Georgia. He accepted of Mr. Houston's agreement with us, and will set out in two months. Mr. Houston died in Jamaica the 14th of August, 1733, and left a considerable collection, which we ordered to be secured for the use of our Colony. There is 185Í. subscribed by the Duke of Richmond, Sir Hans Sloan, the Earl of Derby, Lord Petre, and others, and our Board are engaged to make it up to 2002. per annum. Mr. Douglas, a solicitor, reported that the Palatines were sent to the West Indies about Lady Day, 1710. That the letters patent for collecting money for their use were in force till the Michaelmas following, but that from the time they went away no printed briefs were returned (as required under a severe penalty) to the office, nor any money paid into the Chamberlain of London's office. But the money collected before those people were sent amounted to near 21,0002., private gifts included, which was disbursed upon them. This he had from Mr. Bendish. In a board of Common Council, Mr. Vernon in the chair, some bills of which we had advice were accepted. We ordered a letter to Mr. Oglethorp, desiring him to advise us of all bills he draws for the future, or in his absence to Mr. Scot and Mr. St. Julian. I then went to the House, where we had some hours' debate, whether towards raising the supply of this year we should give the salt duty for seven years ending 1742 to raise a million for this year's service, and we carried it by a majority of 219 to 121. I returned to dinner and passed the evening at home. Thursday, 21.—This day I visited son Hanmer, brother Perceval, Sir Roger Mostyn and Frank Clerke. Sir Roger Mostyn, who is my relation by the Derings, told me a story of one of my great aunts who was married to Sir Daniel Harvy. She was a woman of very high spirit and lived on ill terms with her husband. When Sir Daniel was appointed by King Charles the Second Ambassador to Constantinople, the King told her he hoped he now had pleased her, for he had sent her husband far enough from her. To which she immediately replied, she must acknowledge his goodness, and wished it was in her power to return it by sending the Queen as far from his Majesty. The King, turning about, cried, "Oddsfish, I had better have let my compliments alone." FIRST EABL OF EGMONT. 33 1733-4. I went to the House, where, among other things, we dropped the Woollen Committee for this year, because many gentlemen thought whatever we should do by reinforcing the laws in being against running wool and woollen goods from Ireland would be ineffectual, unless Ireland affectionately and sincerely co-operate with us, which they cannot do till our proposals on that head should meet with a Parliamentary concurrence on that side. I dined at home, and remained the evening at home. Mr. Temple and Cousin Ned Southwell came to see me. Friday, 22.—This morning I visited brother Percival and then went to the House. Dined at home : in the evening went to "The Island Princess " at Drury Lane play house, where was shown the tallest man of all that I have seen. He is seven feet ten inches and half in height, a German by birth. This day the Earl of Scarborough gave up his place of Master of the Horse, and would have given up his regiment also, but the King obliged him to keep the last, telling him he commanded him to do so, and that it was not in his 'power to quit it without his leave. It is said the Earl of Falmouth will likewise surrender to-morrow his place of Vice-Treasurer of Ireland, which he holds jointly with Mr. Edgcomb. His half is worth 3,0002. per annum. It is also said that as soon as the Duke of Dorset comes over, both he and the Earl of Wilmington, President of the Council and Paymaster of the Forces (I think) will resign. All this proceeds from two causes ; the King's coldness to those who in Parliament vote against Sir Robert Walpole's schemes, and to a personal hatred of Sir Robert. I dread the issue of these things. But as to the Earl of Scarborough's quitting, Mr. Doddington told me the reason was an ill judged and unnecessary punctillio of honour ; in that having formerly entertained some notions, and expressed himself by word, and voting against the inclination of the Court, and being now convinced of his error, he would not have the world think that his adhering to the Court measures should be owing to his employments. Whether the world will take it so is a question, but should he go Lord Lieutenant to Ireland next year, it will be thought he played a game. He put in for that employment when his intimate friend the Duke of Dorset went over. Richard Earl of Scarborough was from his youth firmly attached to the Protestant succession in the House of Hanover, which when it obtained on Queen Anne's death, and the Royal family landed, upon the settling of the Prince of Wales (now King) his household, this Lord was made Master of his Horse, and so continued until ms master succeeded to the Crown on his father's death, and then he was appointed Master of the Horse to his Majesty ; he was a genteel personable man when young, and still keeps much the air ol a man of quality, dressing well, and entertaining the nobility, both-domestic and foreign, frequently and magnificently, notwith standing which he is a good manager of his fortune, which is now sunicient for all his desires, having abandoned play and other extravagancies -for many years, so that with his fortune he has recovered his reputation, which he had for a time impaired by 7ou*}\ful extravagancies. The last vice he left was gaming, which fie did of a sudden, having in one night lost 7,0002., and this was about seven years ago. He had an elder brother who died in and succeeded to his honours and estate in 1721 upon his Wt. 6606. E 3 \ 34 DIAEY OF THE Feb. 22-25 father's death. In 1715 he was made Colonel of the First Regiment of Horse Grenadiers, and the same year called up by writ to the House of Lords, having while a Commoner served in two Parlia ments, and always showed himself a firm friend to the constitution, as also to his master, for when that unlucky breach fell out between him and his father the late King, and the order came out that obliged all who had employments in both Courts to choose which they would adhere to, and resign the places they held under the other, he chose to. adhere to his master the Prince, which rivetted him in his affection, and occasioned the speech the King made him this day upon his quitting his place, that he had for nineteen years looked on him as a friend more than a servant. In 1722 he was made Colonel of the Coldstream regiment of foot guards, and in 1724 honoured with the blue Garter. In 1727, the first of this King, he was appointed, as has been said, Master of the Horse, sworn of the Privy Council, and had besides the lieutenancy of the county of Northumberland and the vice-admiralty of Durham. These with his regiment he still holds. It is said Sir Robert Walpole was three times with him to persuade him to keep his Mastership of the Horse, and was more than ordinarily earnest with him, telling him had he flung up a year or two ago it had not been so much, but now that the people have resented so much the removal of the Duke of Bolton and Lord Cobham, his surrendering that employment would prove very prejudicial to his Majesty's affairs, but his Lordship could not be prevailed on to hold. Saturday, 23.—I learned to-day that by direction of the Queen the Princess Royal writ to the Prince of Orange at Bath to suspend his return to London till after her Majesty's birthday is over, to prevent the fatigue which the solemnization of that day may give him, whereupon he so far complied that he will not arrive to-morrow as was expected, but his impatience will bring him up on Thursday night, and his marriage will be that night in private, but, to say the truth, the mind of the Court has varied so often, on this head, and so many things are differently reported, that I know not when it will be consummated. I heard this day that the cold reception Mr. Spencer, brother to the Earl of Sunderland, and his lady met with at Court this week has highly disgusted several great families. That gentleman having a few days ago married a daughter to the Lord Carteret, they with several of their relations went to pay their Court. The Lord Carteret and his Lady, the Earl of Sunderland and his Countess and several others attended on the occasion, and as is usual expected the honour to kiss hands, but the King turned his back to them all, nor did the Queen (who usually makes amends for the King's reservedness) say anything to them, only after a considerable neglect of them all, at last came up to Mr. Spencer, and only said to him, " I think, Mr. Spencer, I have not seen you since you was a child " ; to which he answered as coldly, "No, Madam, I believe not," and so they all came away displeased. It were to be wished the King had more affability, and that the sincerity in showing his resentment where he is displeased with his subject's conduct did not prejudice his Majesty's affairs after this manner. For the nobility of England are proud, and presently take fire at any slight the Crown casts upon them; besides, there are conjunctions of time when Kings should take some pains to please. These Lords Carteret and ÏÏKST EARL OF EGMONT. 35 1733-4. Sunderland have affections for his Majesty's family, but are no friends to Sir Robert Walpole, but it appears whoever are not friends to him are not to be countenanced at Court. Great alterations are expected in employments. It is said my Lord Harrington, Secretary of State (who though he has acted in concurrence with Sir Robert Walpole was never right with him), has been desired to quit, and take on him an Embassy to France, but that he refused it and offers rather than be commanded thither to lay down. It is said also that the Duke of Newcastle, the other Secretory, is to resign to Mr. Horace Walpole, and will be made Master of the Horse in Lord Scarborough's room. The making Mr. Walpole Secretary of State is what Sir Robert has for some years been aiming at, and could the Duke of Newcastle have been prevailed on to accept the lieutenancy of Ireland when the Duke of Dorset went, it had been then done. I hear also that Mr. Doddington, Commissioner of the Treasury, will have the place of Secretary at War, and that Sir Will. Strickland will be removed, which I believe will prove so, for Mr. Doddington is an ambitious man, and seems to have much merit in pacifying the resentment of the Prince of Wales for his treatment at Court. Sir William's guilt is his disapprobation of the late excise scheme, which he positively refused to bring into the House though urged to it, nor did he once appear in the House during the debates on that affair, for which we are told he suffered" so much in his Majesty's opinion, that when afterwards the business of his place obliged him to wait on the King, the King said something in the German tongue which Sir William did not understand ; but remarking the words he went to a friend to desire he would explain them ; that friend told him he did not pronounce to him the words exactly right, but they meant either get you out or get you out, you rascal. Upon this Sir William resolved to wait no more on the King, but has pretended himself ill of the gout ; so that he has not appeared abroad. I stayed the evening at home. Sunday, 24.—I went to chapel, and then to Court, where I thought the King did not look pleased. Dr. Bearcroft, Mrs. Schutz and her daughter dined with me. In the evening I visited the Bishop of Cloyn and Sir Thomas Hanmer. I hear the English officers are highly disgusted that two Scotch men, my Lord Crawford is one, have been this week promoted to commands in the Army over many of their heads, and complain that out of nine employments given this week eight have been to Scotchmen. Monday, 25.—I visited my son Hanmer, and then went to the House, where Mr. Clayton offered a petition in behalf of the Proprietors of the Charitable Corporation who are excluded from relief because they could not swear themselves after their losses in that Company to be worth under 5,0001. None supported the petition but Sir Charles Wager and Colonel Bladen, but they did it faintly, and though none spoke for rejecting the petition but M?· vvuinington and Mr. Sands, it was unanimously rejected, and With reason, for the Act which passed for relieving the Proprietors last year was founded on the persons being undone who were t J ·"«<» »r t*»J *\jΙΛ.1 Λ.\Λ.\ΛΛ \JLL \Jii\j JJ^iDV/AAO RJV^JLU^ \*.*.*.-^-*->*.*.^j «ι *-.·^ intended to be relieved, but no person still worth 5,000?. can be Judged undone ; besides that if these last were to be consic considered ill 36 DIARY OF THE Feb. 25-27 there would be some relieved who yet are worth from fifty to a hundred thousand pound. The House then proceeded to enact that the distribution of the relief should be in proportion to the sums of the sufferers as given in by the Master in Chancery, but I did not stay to the end. I dined and passed the evening at home. Tuesday, 26.—This morning I went and dined at Chariten. In the evening at my return I learned that Mr. Sands' Bill for limiting the number of officers in the House of Commons was on the second reading this day rejected by a majority of 230 against 191. The debate held till half an hour after six o'clock ; the difference was but 39. Wednesday, 27.—I went to the Georgia Board, where the trustees sat and signed commissions to London ministers to preach and collect for us. Trustee board, Egmont in the chair, Hucks, Holland, Bundy, Moore, Thomas Towers, Sloper, Vernon, Shaftesbury, Lapautre, White, Tyrconnel, Digby, Frederick, Coram, Smith, Page. Lord Tyrconnel paidin 225Z. Is. 6d. collected at Dr. Rundall's sermon in St. George's Parish, Hanover Square. Mr. Gordon, one of our bailiffs or chief magistrates of Georgia, lately come over to be cut for a fistula, attended us, and gave us a general account of the Colony which he left November last, at which time there were about 500 souls, and of them 100 fighting men. He told us a great deal of Mr. Oglethorp's indefatigable zeal in carrying on our affairs, conducting the building of the town, keeping peace, laying out of lands, supplyingthe stores with provision, encouraging the fainthearted, etc. He also produced a sketch of the town and adjacent country, as it was when he came away in November last, which we ordered to be engraved for the satisfaction of the subscribers to the undertaking. He said that 40 houses were then already built of timber and clapboard with shingle roofs, but Mr. Oglethorp still lay in the tent set up before the houses were built ; that the town is intended to consist of six wards, each ward containing four tithings, and each tithing 10 houses, so that the whole number of houses will be 240. That we have a battery of twelve guns on the river, over which is the guard room, and there are besides two blockhouses at the two angles of the town with four guns each. That there is a town house erected in which Divine service is said by Mr. Quincy, whom he very much commends for his care and good example. That under the town, the river is twelve foot at low water, and rises with the tide seven or eight foot, but the bluff on which the town stands is forty foot higher than high water. That the kitchen roots and herbs we sent over did not succeed so well as was expected, nor have the people applied themselves so much as we expected in clearing their lands for sowing and gardening, being taken up with building their houses, which is a bad account, because I fear they will not be able to maintain them selves after the year is out as we expected, but will fall a charge on us. That he has great hopes the cultivating the modern grape will bring great employment and profit to the people by making wine, as well as the silk business. That the Indians of the neigh bouring town are forty souls, and live in great friendship with us, as we do with them. That several of our people had fallen sick by drinking, as was supposed, the river water, but Mr. Oglethorpe FIRST EARL OF EGMONT. 37 1733-4. had sunk a well in the middle of the town that produced good water, and sufficient quantity. That the river had a great quantity of several sorts of fish, and particularly sturgeon. That when he came away the people were healthy and orderly. Mr. Bendish, Secretary to the Commissioners of the Palatines in Queen Anne's reign, attended, and showed the disbursement of many thousand pounds advanced by-the Treasury for sending those people to our Colonies, but it appeared that Mr. Walker, collector of the brief money, had still above 1.300Z. unaccounted for by him, and not paid in by him to the Chamber of London, which we thought proper to apply to Parliament for. Mr. Douglas, our solicitor, acquainted us he had writ to Mr. Walker, who had returned no answer. Mr. Smith acquainted us that a parish in London had collected for us 621. We desired he would return our thanks ; and we also ordered a minute to be taken to desire some of our body to wait on my Lord Chancellor and desire him to give some living to Mr. Smith which he might hold with his living in London. In the Common Council, Lord Tyrconnel was in the chair, when we put the seal to two grants. One was to Mr. Hetherington. We also agreed with Mr. Robert Milles to succeed the late Mr. Houston in collecting plants etc. for Georgia. I returned to dinner, and after passing an hour at the coffee house, returned home for the evening. I found by discourse with the two Mr. Towers that they yesterday purposely avoided being at the House because they were in their Judgments for the Bill to limit the number of officers in Parliament, but yet were not willing to disoblige the Ministry who warmly pressed the rejecting that Bill. Mr. Moore also told me he would not be there, because though he liked the Bill, he did not know if the passing it at this time might not embarrass the King's affairs as we are going into a war, when it will be necessary the next Parliament should consist of members that will concur in the Court measures as Placemen will be sure to do. Mr. Page told me he left the House as the question was going to be put, because he could not oppose so reasonable and popular a Bill. My brother Parker did the same, and I was informed that of those present at the debate there were counted twenty friends of the Court who left the House, for the eyes of men are very searching on such occasions. I own I avoided being there because I really rkfk-** *s i*100118!8*611* with our Constitution, and dangerous to our liberties, that so many Placemen should have seats among us, no less as is pretended than 180 ; besides the sons and fathers of Placemen, suitors for employments, and perhaps, secret pensioners, so that if some stop be not put to it, in a few Parliaments more Itnan] two-thirds of the lower House may consist of absolute de- Foidants on the Court ; whereas the true Constitution is that the Ring's prerogative should be preserved entire, and the House of Commons free and independent. But though I must in honour as well as conscience have voted lor the Bill had I been present, for otherwise having no employment, mJ opposing so reasonable a thing might be interpreted as if I were a secret pensioner, yet I apprehended some danger might arise from passing it, because parties are now so high and envenomed against each other, that were the new Parliament [Pi 38 DIAEY OF THE Feb. 27-Mar. 1 almost entirely independent of the Crown, I know not how violently they may behave against the public measures next year, when we shall be perhaps engaged in war, especially considering the characters of Sir William Wyndham, Mr. Pulteney, Shippen and others who are the promoters of this Bill, some of whose principles are suspected to tend to a Commonwealth and others more than suspected to be Jacobites. But I think it had been more decent, popular, and wise, if the Ministry had given way to a committal at all of this Bill, and then opposed it, on pretence the limitations intended were too many. It had been easy to find objections at that time, and so have thrown the Bill out as unreasonable and impracticable, and then the gentlemen who should oppose it might have some excuses to make to their electors, but the throwing the Bill out upon a second reading, before the limitations intended to be proposed were known, is a stretch of insolence of power, that I really think does no service to the Ministry, but shows their view is to have the House filled with all the officers they can, and that they care not what the country thinks so as they can procure a majority of dead votes, which as it still provokes the nation against them, lessens besides the interest of their independent friends who offer to stand for next Parliament. Such labour to increase the power of the Crown over the Parliament is very contrary to the honest principles of the Whigs, who value themselves on being friends to the liberty of their country, and it is very unfortunate that to please the Court the Whigs must desert their principles and turn Tories, whose principle is to advance the power of the Crown. But though some Ministries disallow the Tory principles of government to be de jure, yet all Ministries like the exercise of it de, facto, for what they want is power by which they please their Princes and secure themselves. Thursday, 28.—This morning I went to the House, where at the request of divers subscribers to the Palatine refugees, who came over in Queen Anne's reign, Sir Roger Meredith presented a petition complaining that a brief had been granted for collecting money for the relief of those Palatines to which they had subscribed; and that near 20,OOOZ. had been collected as they were .informed, that R. Walker, gent, of Staffordshire, had undertaken the collection, but had not paid in a considerable part of that money so collected by him and his agents to the Chamber of -London as he was obliged, neither returned the briefs into the proper office as by Act of Parliament required. They therefore desired that the Parliament would take the matter into consideration, and expressed their wishes that what might be recovered might be applied to the support of the Colony of Georgia, or to such other purpose as the House should think proper. A committee was appointed to look into it and we chose Sir Roger Meredith our chairman, who on Tuesday next will sit, and wrote to one Ward to attend, and also ordered a letter to Walker. When the House was up, Sir Robert Walpole came and sat by me, and asked me what I thought of the Triennial Bill, which the opposers of the Court intend to move for ? I answered, I was totally against a Triennial Bill, and had ever been in my judgment against it, but more especially at this time a day, when there are such heats and parties in the nation ; that all neighbourhood and WEST EARL OF EGMONf. 39 1733-4. friendship would be lost if every three years gentlemen were to renew their contests for elections, besides the insolence of the electors to the nobility and gentry which would daily grow upon us on account of courting them for their votes, and the ruinous expense to our fortunes, for such short Parliaments would render every year of our lives as troublesome and chargeable in order to keep up our interest as an election year. Yes, said Sir Rohert, and if it come to that of spending money, the Crown will certainly get the better and tire the gentry out, for ΙΟΟ,ΟΟΟΖ. a year spent by the Crown will in a little time drain the gentry's pockets. " How will Sir Philip Parker do in it ? " " He thinks," replied I, " as ill of the Triennial Bill as I do." At this Sir Robert seemed to express an unusual satisfaction, repeating several times, he was glad of it, he was extremely glad. I then asked him if he apprehended any other opposition this Session ? He answered, " No, except on paying the Navy debt." "I suppose," said I, "it will be out of the Sinking Fund ? " "I believe so," said he. " I think (said I) it will be right, for though I was last year against it, as you know, yet now the case is different, for the Navy debt must one day be paid, and till it be, carries five per cent, interest, whereas the other national debts carry but four, so that your applying a million of the Sinking Fund to the Navy debt will be saving ΙΟ,ΟΟΟΖ. to the nation." I returned home to dinner, and in the evening went to the ballad opera called Achilles at Covent Garden playhouse. Friday, 1 March.—This being the Queen's birthday, there was an extraordinary appearance of nobility and gentry both morning and afternoon to congratulate her. My wife, son, and both my daughters went in new clothes ; and in the evening they went also to the Ball, where my son and daughters were called out to dance according to their rank of nobility, without infringement of their Irish rank. The King and Queen were observed to be more pleased and attentive to my son and daughter Helena while they danced than on any other dancers there. I went not, but passed the day at home, only some few visits in the morning I made. Dr. Ven came to see me, and presented me with a pamphlet he printed in the heat of the Preston rebellion, Anno 1715, entitled King George's title, asserted. He at that time published it to preserve the_ subjects in their loyalty, and now hath reprinted it to show he is no Jacobite, of which they have scandalized him because he opposes the making Dr. Rundall a Bishop, and offers to witness against him that he does not believe the Scriptures. He told we that he can prove Dr. Rundall has every year manifested a contempt of the Scriptures, and that what is objected to him of disbelieving that God commanded Abraham to offer up his son Isaac is true, that he did not (as is said in his excuse) speak it Jocularly and by way of argument, but held a serious discourse about it in the presence of many ministers, who were much scandalized therewith. He is veiy warm on this occasion, and tears that infidelity has infected above half the nation, and much the greater part of the nobility. He also told me that when Crellins the son (now the head of the Socinians in Europe) was two years ago m England this Crellins affirmed to him that our famous Dr. opencer, who writ De legibus Hebreorum, owned himself to him When formerly in England to be a Socinian, and at taking leave 40 DIARY OF THE Mar. 1-3 gave him his hand with these words—Te et causam tuam Deo com- mendo ut préservât et precor: I pray God preserve you and your cause. Saturday, 2.—I visited Mr. Clerke in Pall Mall, who told me the Prince of Orange will be certainly in town Monday night, but nobody knew at Court when he would be married, nor in what manner, only that the Lord Chamberlain told him there will no tickets be given out, and he believes there will be no other walking than as the nobility proceed to Chapel every Sunday. I visited Cousin Moll Bering, who, though all day with the Princess, could not tell me how or when the wedding is to be, wherefore several who made clothes on that occasion wore them yesterday at the Queen's birthday, saying that since the Court thought fit to be so secret in the matter, perhaps it might not be till summer, and then their winter suits would not be fit to be worn, and to buy new would cost too much. I afterwards went to the House, and then to Court, where the King and Queen spoke a considerable time to me. After dinner I went to the Haymarket playhouse, where among other representations I saw the strong man show one of his feats. Two chairs were placed on the stage at such a distance as that laying himself along, his head and a small part of his shoulders rested on one, and his feet on the other, so that his body and legs were suspended in the air. Then six grown men (two of whom I observed to be remarkably tall) go up, and stood perpendicular upon his body, two on his chest, two on his body and two on his legs. He bore them all a quarter of a minute, and bending his body downward till it almost touched the ground between the chairs, with a surprising spring and force raised his body with all that weight upon it, not only level as he lay at first, but higher in the air. The mob of the gallery not satisfied with this, hissed, whereupon he refused to show any other of his tricks. This man is about thirty years old and married. He was born in a neigh bouring village and by trade a carpenter. His father was 70 years old, and his mother 52 when they begot him. When 13 years of age he beat at boxing boys of 19. He is very fond of music and goes a note lower than Montagnana, the deep voiced Italian now here, wherefore he is now learning to sing. He will bend a kitchen poker round his neck like a withy, or break it by a blow on his arm. He formerly ran vastly swift, till resisting the draught of three cart horses, they by a sudden Jerk pulled him over, by which accident he broke his thigh. Sunday, 3.—This morning I went to St. James's Church, where the Bishop of Norwich preached a very good sermon on the innocency of sociableness, and the advantage to the world by men's living free and easy together, provided we break not the commands of God. He did not omit St. Paul's example of becoming all things to all men that he might gain some. This is the gentleman whose promotion to the see of Norwich occasioned much uneasiness, for it was the unanimous desire of that diocese to have Dr. Tanner, a learned man, who had been Chancellor of it and Prolocutor of the Convocation. But by the interest of Lord Harvey, Dr. Richard Butts (that is his name) obtained the bishopric last January was twelvemonth, on the death of Dr. Baker. Dr. Butts being minister of Bury in Suffolk, was serviceable to Lord Hervey FIRST EABT, OF BGMONT. 41 1733-4. in his election, who returned the favour by advancing him first to the deanery of Norwich and then to the bishopric. After church was over I went to Court, and on my return found Nicholas Richman of Harwich, who said there is no likelihood of opposition to my son's election. I learned that this night it is to be resolved whether the marriage shall be public or private ; if public, the gallery is to be enlarged. In the evening I went to chapel, and after some time spent at the coffee house returned home. In the morning, when at Court, Mr. Vernon, one of the members of our Trustee Board, took me aside to express his concern at the behaviour of some gentlemen of our body. I find this gentleman's character in the memoirs of John Macky, Esqr., given to the Princess Sophia, 1703 : Mr. Vernon, Envoy to the King of Denmark, is son of Mr. Secretary Vernon, Teller of the Exchequer ; a young gentleman who hath had a fine education, is master of abundance of learning ; is very modest and sober, speaks little, not 25 years old. To this I will add that he is a man of great honour and sense of religion, and employs all the time he can spare from his public offices, which are Clerk of the Council and Commissioner of the Excise, in pro moting the cause of Christianity both at home and abroad, being a member of the Christian Society for Promoting Christian Know ledge, and also a member of the Georgia Society, wherein he constantly attends. In the first place he complained to me of the neglect Mr. Oglethorp shows in not corresponding with us frequently, and thereby keeping us in great ignorance of his proceedings in Georgia and the state of the Colony there, he not having writ to us since December last, and never once in any full and satisfactory manner, though by all accounts from thence writ occasionally by others he is very indefatigable in the settlement of the Colony. Moreover, - his drawing bills upon us without advice is a dangerous negligence, for thereby we are subject to be cheated by false bills, which if We pay, then we are liable to be questioned for squandering away the public money, and if we do not pay them, then the reputation of our Board is blown up, and the Colony put under great distress on future occasions, for nobody will supply them when their bills are not answered punctually by us. He next complained of the behaviour of several of our young members, as George Heathcot, Mr. White, Thomas Towers, Hucks and Moore, who seem in his opinion to be carrying on some particular schemes, and on that account to neglect the general good of the Colony, and also to have too little regard to the religious part of our designs, leaning to the new opinions that are unorthodox. He took it ill that they separated the Colony affairs and the members of it from the care of Mr. Dalone's legacy for converting blacks, and Dr. Bray's improvement of that design, of which others of the Trustees for Georgia are Trustees ; with these he put Mr. Martin, our secretary, who he thinks leads the gentlemen I have mentioned. He next complained of the coldness with which those gentlemen Prosecute the recovery of the Palatine brief money, of which they gavera mark last Wednesday, when the Board agreed to support petitioning the Parliament to call the brief gatherers to account lor the money they had collected, and had not paid in. Several H \ rSSr ff «&*/ «•«V st*>* 42 DIABY OB' THE Mar. 3-5 of them spoke faintly and discouragingly on that subject, and on Thursday but few appeared, when Sir Roger Meredith presented the petition, for there were none in the House but Mr. Moore, Mr. Hucks, Mr. White and myself, and after they had laboured with the Speaker and Sir Boger to defer presenting the petition, all but myself left the House to avoid being put on the Committee that was appointed to consider of the petition. The reasons they gave me were that the session was too short to make any progress ; that Walker of Staffordshire, the brief gatherer, was eighty years old and grown a natural fool ; that the Ministry had not been acquainted with the design of preferring the petition that day, and therefore would discourage it, having before shown their dislike of it ; that it is likely no money will be recovered, it being certain that above 19,00(M. had been paid in by the brief gatherers into the Chamber of London, and if a Bill should pass for forcing the brief gatherers to account for any remaining sum, what might be so recovered might not answer the cost and charges of the Bill and prosecution, which might amount to many hundred pounds ; and who should pay it ? To this I answered that we had reason . to believe near 2,0001. is yet not paid in by the brief gatherers, as appeared to us last Wednesday at the Georgia Board, and we ought to encourage the petition, because by the prayer of it the subscribers of that petition who were subscribers to the Palatines desire the money so recovered may be given to our Colony ; that the House had been prepared to receive the petition favourably, the leading men were for it, and the Speaker approved it. That as we were not the petitioners, we might remain in the House, and by not speaking on the occasion, should only act the part of the other members who approved the appointing a Committee. That the Committee would be mostly made up of members who were not of the Georgia Board, and if the Session should prove too short to do anything, a foundation might be laid for prosecuting the · matter next Parliament. However, notwithstanding what I said, Mr. Moore, Hucks and White retired behind the Chair, and after consulting together, without advising again with me suddenly went all three out of the House before the question was put for a Committee, and returned not till the matter was over, whereby all of them but Mi·. Moore escaped being named of the Committee. Mr. Vernon told me he suspected Mr. Martin had influenced them to act in that manner, and gave me for reason that the town of Stafford was formerly in subjection to the late Lord Chancellor Macclesfield, and he imagined that Martin, to compliment the present Lord Chancellor, has put into his head that, his Lordship should succeed to that influence over the town in the crfoice of members, to which this Walker, the brief gatherer, would be instrumental, as he was in serving Macclesfield, his being the controlling interest in that town, and by which the members used to be chosen. Thus to serve his own interest with the Chancellor, Mr. Vernon believes that our Secretary sacrifices the Georgia Board, and being very great with our gentlemen abovementioned has influenced them to discourage a pursuit that will bring reflection on Mr. Walker and lessen his influence in Stafford. Another distress we are in is how to go on with the invitation we have made to the Vaudois in Holland, and the Saltsburgers FIRST EARL OF EGMONT. 43 1733-4. we have writ for to settle them in Georgia, seeing that by the ill management in settling the English now there, the expense has greatly exceeded what we imagined, and we know not how much it may cost more, especially since they have not cultivated their lands as was expected, so that they will be another year charged upon us to maintain them, which was not in our scheme, for after the first year they were to maintain themselves out of the produce of their lands, but that cannot be since they have spent their time in building houses, and not in reducing the land. I told him these were all things to be considered seriously, and in the meantime the foreigners we are in treaty with to send should by prudent means be delayed. I perceive a division growing up among the trustees of Georgia, which I must labour to stifle, or our affairs will go on very heavily. Monday, 4.—I visited son Hanmer, brother Percival, Mr. Tuffnell, Sir Edmond Bacon, Lord Bathurst and Mr. Howard, formerly painter. Lord Grantham told me that the King is positive to have the marriage of the Prince of Orange performed in the manner first intended by a procession through the wooden gallery, notwith standing Sir Robert Walpole, Duke of Grafton, Harry Pelham and others were warmly against it as a thing that will disoblige his subjects. ' Indeed there is not a man or woman but speaks against it. I told Lord Grantham, who is likewise much against it, that I must condemn it with both my hands, that it must displease the subject, and makes his Majesty look stubborn, and at the same time childish to us all, and as to the Irish Peers, we could not appear at all, if we may not preserve our rank in the procession. Coleman of Harwich dined with me. He is hearty for my son, and hopes the most opposite will come round at last. I had letters from Harwich this day that the packet masters blame me that they have been informed against for smuggling, and are cruelly angry with Davis the collector for obeying the Commissioner of the Customs' orders to acquaint them in what manner their men do smuggle. I told Coleman it was very hard to blame me for a thing I know nothing of, but I supposed my enemies there took a handle to censure me, though unjustly, that the party against me may keep out. He said it was all Phillipson's doing. After dinner I carried my wife and daughter Helena to the public music at the Crown Tavern, and then went to the Georgia Society, on a summons from the Trustees of Dalone's legacy for converting the blacks. We were Egmont, Coram, Hales and Dr. Bedford. We referred some matters to a subsequent meeting, and report was made that we have 1,0001. in cash, but owe 90Z., which, when paid as we expect in three years, we then shall resolve m what manner to dispose the Ι,ΟΟΟί. principal for converting negroes according to the intent of Monsieur Dalone. We adjourned to the anniversary meeting this month, when Mr. Hales promised to preach the sermon. Tuesday, 5.—This morning I went to the Committee appointed to consider of the petition relating to the Palatine money, of which Committee Sir Roger Meredith is chairman. I was concerned to see among our Georgia members only Mr. Moore, White, La Roche, and Sir Will. Heathcot were present, and that the first three rather made objections to the enquiry than forwarded it, the mystery of which I cannot yet unravel, unless that the great lawyers 44 DIARY OF THE Mar. 5 should have influenced them to discourage an enquiry that will bring reflection, and perhaps censure, on some law offices, as particularly the office for registering briefs, where by law all briefs returned should be entered, to serve as a check upon the brief gatherer that they defraud not the principals, sufferers, or others, in whose behalf the brief is granted, and in the 4 and 5 of Queen Anne it was enacted that the collector of the briefs should pay 501. for every brief received of the King's printer and not registered in the office. It had been customary for those in whose favour briefs were granted to sell their rights in the money to be collected by them to persons who made it a trade to pay down some ready money, after which all they collected was their own, and when the only person interested in those collectors' faithful accounting for the profits was previously satisfied by the purchase of his right, the collectors declined returning their briefs to the Register Office, because that would have obliged them to account before a Master in Chancery on oath, which was attended with some charge, and would have discovered the great and unreasonable profit made by them in farming of briefs. Now if the briefs had been returned to the Register Office, and the office made no entry of them, there was a scandalous neglect in the office, and if none were returned, there must still lie a neglect somewhere, perhaps in the Masters of Chancery in not returning the account passed before them by the collectors, and as they are officers of the Chancery Court, the Lord Chancellor very possibly may have discouraged this enquiry, to save the reputation of his Courts, and therefore may have employed Mr. Martin, our secretary, who is great in his Lordship's family, to influence the gentlemen abovementioned to clog the enquiry. But this I own is bare suspicion. The reason they gave me was a concern for the Trustees of Georgia's money, which they said might be squandered away by this pursuit, for if nothing should be recovered, but a Bill pass in consequence of this enquiry, it would be a private Bill, and they had known private Bills cost 1,400Z. In answer to. which I said that if nothing came of our enquiry, we would have no Bill at all, but if gross abuses came out, the Parliament would certainly make some public Act, and then no charge would fall on us. That I never understood private Bills cost more than a hundred pounds, that on this occasion the Speaker said he would give up his own fees, and Mr. Douglas said he would undertake to satisfy the remaining charges for 301. They replied that by computation of the brief money, and comparing what the collectors had received, and what they had paid into the Chamber of London, there appeared but twelve pounds for which the collector Walker was accountable. I replied their computation might be erroneous, for Sir William Young this morning told me the collectors owned they had money in their hands unaccounted for, which they are ready to pay when called upon by proper authority. That I heard this money amounted to 1,300?. and upwards, which certainly is worth our enquiry, since the Parliament is disposed to give that money to Georgia. That if nothing did come, then the reputation of Walker would be cleared, and the Parliament would still have the honour of enquiring into abuses which would have a good effect for times to come. It appeared in our examination that the Register Office of Briefs had no returns whatever of briefs issued on account of the Palatines. FIRST EARL OF EGMONT. 45 1733-4. The Registrar produced a book of entries from the year 1706 to this time, where no entry was made of Palatine briefs, and owned that if any had been returned they must have been entered in that book, for the briefs were issued in 1709 or 1710. There was indeed a memorandum of 13,000 briefs, received of the King's printer by Mr. Walker, and signed by Walker with witnesses thereto, and this tallied with the King's printer's book, wherein was a receipt under Walker's hand of 13,000 briefs received of him, of which number 340 were ordered by the Lords Commissioners of the Brief Money to be delivered by Walker to one Bromley for the use of the City of London. So here was a plain proof that Walker is charged with 12,660 briefs, of which he made no return, and consequently is chargeable with so many 501. penalty for not complying with the Act of Parliament. The Clerk of the Chamber of London produced his book, wherein all moneys paid in on account of the Palatines and disbursed for their use was entered, and it appeared the Chamber had received from June, 1709, to December, 1711, 22,038?. 5s. 6Jss what to do, except Page, who is very strenuous for Mr. Leathes. My brother Parker explained to me that Philipson has a mind to set up his barber, and Baker and others are not for it. My son and daughter Hanmer and cousin Celia Scot dined with me. I spent the evening at home. Wednesday, 5.—This day I visited brother Percival, and then went to the Georgia Office. There were present Thomas Towers in the Trustee chair, Mr. Digby in the Common Council chair, Lord Limerick, Lord Tyrconnel, Lord Carpenter, Earl of Shaftes bury, Mr. Vernon, Sir William Heathcot, Mr. Chandler, Egmont, La Roche, Mr. Holland, Mr. Oglethorp, Mr. Hales, Mr. La Pautre, Dr. Bundy. Trustees not Common Council men, Mr. Smith, Captain Coram, Robert Tracey, member for Tewkesbury. Mr. Oglethorp delivered his accounts of money received and disbursed by him on account of the Society, which was referred to a Committee. He also read over a short account of the state of the Colony, which being not perfected was referred back to him to finish. A power was given to collect money in a certain parish. Dr. Bundy excused his not preaching on our anniversary day, but said he would endeavour to engage Dr. Thomas. Captain Coram moved that a day might be appointed to debate the expediency of not permitting the Georgia estates to descend to heirs female, but he was not seconded, ib being the unanimous sense of every member present besides himself not to alter the tenor of the grants, and that for good reasons given by Mr. Ogle thorp and Mr. Vernon. So the Chairman, Mr. Towers, left the chair without putting the question. I dined at home with Dr. Bearcroft and so passed the evening. 148 DIARY OF THE Feb. 5-17 Yesterday Mr. Walpole arrived in London from the Hague, without any satisfactory account I can hear of as to the success of his negotiations. Thursday, 6.—This day I visited Lord Palmerston, Lord Bathurst and Mr. John Temple. Dr. Rundle, being disappointed of a Bishopric in England, has been offered that of Derry in Ireland, vacant by the death of Dr. Downes. He has referred it to his patron, the Lord Chancellor, whether he shall accept it, who I am told will not let him. I returned home to Charlton to dinner. Sunday, 9.—Communicated. Dr. Warren in his sermon showed himself strongly of the same opinion with Dr. Scot and some other writers, that the temper of our minds are not altered in the other world, so that could we suppose a very wicked man capable of being mounted into heaven, he would not like the conversation and employment which good men find there, but would pronounce himself unhappy, wherefore he pressed our gaining the love of God and habit of Christian virtues, our'imitating Christ while we live and always going on to perfection, that we may relish the joys of Heaven if we ascend thither, there being a necessary con- gruifcy between happiness and the mind of man receiving that happiness, which mind in us will retain its own nature and dis position after the separation of the soul from the body which it had before. As to idiots and madmen, he said they would not enter Heaven or Hell, but be referred to some other state, for their minds would still remain disturbed and confounded and therefore incapable of heavenly joys, and not deserving the torments of Hell. But what if madness and idiotism should proceed from defects of the body to which the soul is nearly allied ? May not the soul when freed from that clog return to a regular way of thinking ? If so, the Doctor is not as favourable as he ought to be to such unhappy persons. Monday, 10.—I went and dined in town, where I learned that Friday last the House of Commons debated on the Minister's proposition to raise 30,OOOZ. for this year's service. They sat till after seven o'clock, and on the division the Court carried it by 73, 260 against 187. After dinner I went to Drury Lane Play house. Tuesday, 11.—This morning I visited Mr. Frank Clerke and Lord Grantham. I waited also on Dr. Bundy, Mr. Smith and Mr. Bedford to the Bishop of London, but he was not at home. It was to execute the commission mentioned page 63.* I then visited Counsellor Annesley at the Temple, who informed me of the reports of the town that Lord Cartwright, who has for some time been at the head of the Opposition, had betrayed the Scots noblemen, who next Thursday present their petition com plaining of corruption from Lord Islay in the election of the Scots Peers to serve in this Parliament. That the Duke of Roxbery and Marquis of Tweedale had likewise been gained, to desire their names might be scratched out of that petition. That Sir Robert intended to lay down the Ministry and be a Duke, and had recommended Lord Carteret to succeed him. But this is mere report without foundation. * i.e. of the Manuscript Diary. See p. 146 supra. FIRST EARL OF EGMONT. 149 1734-5. I dined at home, and my son and daughter Hanmer with me, and so passed the evening. Wednesday, 12.—This day I visited brother Percival and then went to the Georgia Office, where we made not a Board of Common Council. Mr. La Röche was chairman of the Trustees, and we were present, La Roche, Lord Limerick, Lord Tyrconnel, Mr. Hucks, Vernon and Egmont. A letter was read from one of Georgia to Mr. Hucks, giving account of the good condition of the Colony, and a duplicate of Cotton, our Head Bailiff's accounts being sent over, we referred them to a Committee. I was sorry to find this day that the Bishop of London's clergy do not design to preach against Popery because the Dissenters have begun it before them, a poor and unjustifiable excuse. The report of Lord Carteret's betraying the Scotch Peers in their design of petitioning to-morrow is false, and was occasioned by that Lord in conjunction with the Earl of Winchelsea, Marquis of Tweedale and Duke of Roxburow's not approving the form of the petition as at first drawn up, whereby the petitioners intended to claim a right of being returned, and by setting aside the ten Peers now sitting, to be members of this Parliament in their place. The four Lords first mentioned thought it a vain design, but were for contenting themselves with making the petition a foundation for a Bill to remedy corruption in the choice of the Scotch Lords for the future. This occasioned for a time some difference, but I hear to-day they are reconciled by altering the petition in a manner to please all. I returned home to dinner. Mr. Arragoni, Madam Bertoldi and Mr. Wolley dined with me. I passed the evening at home. Thursday, 13.—Visited Mr. Tuffnell and Mr. John Temple, who told me that to-morrow Dr. Rundle is to kiss the King's hands for the Bishopric of Derry in Ireland. To which I said that either the Lord Chancellor had interest to make a Bishop of Ireland, not of England, or that it mattered not who was a Bishop of Ireland, since one who was rejected for his religious principles from being an English Bishop was yet thought good enough for that kingdom. This day the Scotch Lords present their petition. I returned to Charlton to dinner.· Friday, 14.—This being my daughter Helena's birthday, on which she enters into her 17th year, my servants put themselves into masquerade as usual. Monday, 17.—I went to town as usual on this day. Before dinner I went to Court, where the Queen asked very kindly after my wife, said she had not seen her this long time, but my daughter came sometimes. She also asked how I went on with my printed heads, and said I had quitted her, which was a double entendre, I not going so often to Court since my son's disappointment as before, nor my wife at all. I replied, my wife had been of late worse again than ordinary, that her illness and being subject to catch cold hindered her from dressing suitably to appear at Court. She replied, she heard she was ill in her head as well as stomach, which might be also a double entendre for resenting so warmly my son's usage from Sir Robert, which occasions my wife not going to Court. She added she was very sorry for her. I thanked her Majesty, and said it was true she could not dress her head for 150 DIARY OF THE Feb. 17-19 Court without catching cold. That as to me, she might command me anything, but my Prints were in the country. I dined at home, and in the evening my son Hanmer and brother Parker came in. They told me that Friday last the debate on the augmentation of the Army with 8,040 men lasted till half an hour after ten, when the Court carried that motion in the Committee by 261 against 208, besides Tellers, so that the majority was but 53. That the speakers on the Court side were Sir Robert Walpole, who did his part extremely well, Mr. Walpole, Sir William Young, Mr. Pelham, Mr. Townshend Andrews, who as Deputy Secretary at War made the motion, and another. Their main arguments were that an Army will give weight to our mediation of Peace and influence the Dutch, if our mediation should not succeed, to join in a war to assist the Emperor. The Opposition side had many more speakers, and Sir William Wyndham shined. Their argument was that this number of new raised troops is either too many or too few, too many if we do not engage in the war, too few if we do ; that the money they cost would pay twice the number of foreign troops. That if we assisted the Emperor with money, it would answer his end as well as if we lent him troops. I hear the Court is not pleased at seeing so small a majority, and on this occasion Mons. Chavigny, the French Ambassador, told my son what the late Lord Sunderland once told him, namely, that whenever an English Minister had but 60 majority in a House of Commons he was undone. My son told me his steps to be chosen at Hindon in Wilts which the gentlemen in the Opposition are much for. Mr. Stephen Fox and George Fox are now members for it, but the former is likewise chosen for Shaftesbury in Dorsetshire, for which last place he designs to make his election to-morrow, when he upon petition is sure of turning out Mr. Philip Bennet. This will make a vacancy in Hindon, into which Mr. Fox intends to bring his younger brother, now abroad because of his debts, but my son understands the town are not inclined to choose him, and therefore intends to go down and try his fortune. Lord Shaftesbury, Lord Weymouth, Mr. George Heathcote, and Mr. Bennet abovementioned -design to give him letters to the voters, who are 113 in all, and my son counts upon 70 of them. Tuesday, 18.—I visited Lord Wilmington, Lord Bathurst, brother Percival, Sir Thomas Hanmer and Frank Clerke, who told me that Sir Robert Walpole, being asked how he could go through the fatigue of his post, answered it was a great fatigue indeed, but he had so many pleasures with it that he still liked it. Lord Bathurst told me the reason why Lord Carteret, Lord Winchelsea, the Marquis of Tweedale and Duke of Roxburow are displeased with the Scots petition is that the three first are friends to the last, who when he was Secretary of State for Scotland bribed for the election of the Scots Peers as much as my Lord Islay did on this late occasion, and the present complaint will necessarily discover it. This morning at Lieutenant Thomas Bury's desire a tin case locked up, containing writings, were sent me by my sister Percival to keep safe for him till called for. I put them in my wainscot scriptore, in the drawer marked "papers to be carefully preserved." FIRST EARL OF EGMONT. 151 Í734-5. I dined and passed the evening at home. Wednesday, 19.—This morning I visited Mr. Clerke of Spring Gardens and cousin Le Grande, and then went to the Georgia Office, where we were not enough to make a Board of Common Council, but as Trustees we ordered a petition to be drawn up to Parliament for money to support the Province. The doing it was referred to a Committee. Present: Lord Limerick, in the chair, Lord Tyrconnel, La Roche, Egmoiit, Oglethorp, Hucks, Sir Will. Heathcote, Lapautre, Mr. Smith. I dined at home and so passed the evening. My son being informed that Hindon is a more mercenary borough than he at first imagined, and that the returning officer is under the direction of a Government man, wisely resolved to quit his intention of standing there. This day Lord Waldegrave set out for France to communicate the plan of accommodation agreed on between the Dutch and us, to the French Court. What it is we know not yet, but Sir Robert Walpole owned in the House that he did not expect it would be accepted. Should the French and Spaniards approve it, it is sup posed the Emperor will not, in which case I suppose we shall leave him to shift for himself, but then he will be overrun and the balance of Europe be lost, and what extremities this may drive the Emperor to is to be dreaded. Last Saturday Dr. Rundle kissed his Majesty's hand for the Bishopric of Ireland, worth 3,200Z. per annum, and for which he quits Ι,δΟΟΖ. church livings in England. The town saith thereon that my Lord Chancellor has interest to make an Irish Bishop, but not an English one, and that a person unfit to be a small Bishop in England is good enough for Ireland. That the Bishop of London would not suffer him to be an English Bishop because he could not subject him to his pleasure, but acquiesces in his being a Bishop in another country, so that whatever he pretends it is not the unorthodoxy of the man that made him really his enemy, but the incompliableness. It is also said by some that the Bishop of London, who is very high in Church matters, had it in his view to get rid one day of the prcemunire which is over the heads of Bishops, in case they refuse to consecrate such Bishops as the King nominates, and so to take the nomination out of the Crown and restore it as it was in the early tunes to the Bishops and clergy, and as he is well with the Court, thought no opportunity more proper than this by objecting to Dr. Rundle, who is suspected of heterodox opinions, and therefore that his desire was at the bottom that the Crown should have persisted in the first intention of making Dr. Rundle Bishop of Gloucester, after which he would have opposed his consecration and had a trial at law, wherein he would have ventured the consequence of a prcemunire if cast, depending on his power with his Majesty and the Ministry, and then if he succeeded in this instance, it would be a rule to Bishops for the future to do the like whenever they had objections to persons nominated by the Crown, so that at last the clergy would recover their ancient rights. But by making this Doctor a Bishop in Ireland, against which he declares his dissent though he cannot help it, the view he had is lost, and all the satisfaction that remains to him is that a person whom he could not govern is not a member of the House of Lords in England. 152 DIARY OF THE Feb. 20-24 Thursday, 20.—The Lords this day sat on the Scots petition which was presented a week ago, and referred to be now considered. But whereas it was couched in general terms, and the purport of it was to complain of corrupt practices in the elections and returning the sixteen sitting Peers, which the six subscribing Lords offered to make out without specifying who had corrupted them, the Duke of Buccleuch got up and desired to know whether the aim of the petitioners was to dispute his seat, as did the Duke of Athol, to which the Duke of Bedford, who delivered the petition, replied he had authority in writing from the petitioning Lords to declare they did not mean to dispute the sitting of those Lords or any other of the sixteen, but to set forth the evil practices used in the choosing them. Then my Lord Hardwick, Lord Chief Justice, said the petition was so framed that he could not tell what it aimed at, for there were three ways of taking the petitioners' meaning, and though he had all the regard that was due to the Duke of Bedford's declaration, yet the Lords as a House could not rest satisfied with it, and therefore proposed the consideration of this matter should be put off till'to-morrow, and that in the meantime my Lord Chancellor should write to each of the six subscribing Lords to desire them to mend their petition in such a manner as to specify directly what their Lordships' view was. Upon this there was a division whether my Lord Chancellor should so write or no, which was carried m the Court favour by a majority of 39, besides proxies 90 against 51. The Lord Fitzwalter voted for the first time with the minority, and the Duke of Somerset took the oaths this morning in order to vote with the minority. In the House of Commons, after a hearing of three days at the Bar, Mr. Philip Bennet was voted not duly elected for Shaftesbury without a division, and then the question was carried that the petitioner, Mr. Steven Fox, was duly elected, 203 against 88. I dined and passed the evening at home. I went this morning to see Mr. [Joshua] Ward, who does such famous cures with his drop, pill and powder. His rooms were all full of poor people, with a few of better sort, who came to be cured of blindness, deafness, cancers, king's evil, and other disorders wherein the physicians could not help them. I talked with several persons who had been a long time blind, but by his means had in a great measure recovered their sight, and one lady told me she had the palsy that took away her speech for seven years, and it had cost her 200 guineas to five doctors, who successively treated her in vain, among whom were Sir Hans Sloane and Dr. Jurin, but in taking Mr. Ward's medicine 14 times she was perfectly cured, as I might see by her telling me her story. Afterwards Sir Edward Lawrence told me of his own knowledge that a gentleman who had been several years blind now sees by the help of Mr. Ward as well as ever. Some who were born deaf and dumb have been made by him both to hear and to speak. Friday, 21.—Returned to Charlton to dinner. Monday, 24.—This day my son is 24 years old. I went to town to dinner. Dr. Bearcroft, Cousin Will Dering, Cousin Scot, Cousin Fortrey and Griffith Da vis, collector of Harwich, dined with me. Davis told me that it is said at Harwich Mr. Leathes' election cost him 1,700?.. but Mr. Stanhope gave him a bank bill of Ι,ΟΟΟΖ., tTßST EARL OS1 EOMONf. 153 1734-5. telling him at the same time he owed his election to him, not to the town. That the vote of Cyprian Bridge alone cost Mr. Leathes 500Í., for 200Í. of which he gave a maltster his bond, who had arrested Bridge, and which bond he cleared last Christmas. That Will Philip also was bribed, with Will Ri